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Old 09-14-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
" But seriously I don’t think anyone has to worry about their 22 rifles being banned"

But seriously, I don’t think you know much about guns. The AR-15, and others like it, CAN be had in a .22 caliber.

Just another case of an ignorant statement and why we CAN'T have reasonable conversations with ant-gun nuts!

The bullet most common for ARs is the .223. It is 3/1000 wider than a .22lr. they are extremely similar.

 
Old 09-14-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I used to consider myself an independent and vote for the person and what they stood for. You would have to put a gun to my head today (pardon the pun based on the thread) to make me vote for any Democrat above the office of small town mayor as the party is run by absolute nuts now.

That said, I AGREE with one thing the Democrats are pushing, and that's a limit being placed on the number of rounds in a clip or magazine. When used for hunting or home defense, you're never going to need more than 10 rounds and maybe it could be even lessened down to 6 rounds. Even in competitive shooting, they never shoot more than 6 rounds at a time. There's no need to ban clips or magazines, just ban those holding too many (whatever is chosen as too many) rounds. Banning of guns like the AR-15 is just a bunch of talk by people that really don't know anything about guns. As if they are more dangerous than much larger guns that they never talk about like the 30-30's, 308's, & 30-06's which also are available as semi-automatics.

There you have it. The only thing that TODAY'S Democratic "leaders" have in all their talking points that makes any sense at all.
So you're okay with people getting shot as long as it isn't more than 6 or so?
 
Old 09-14-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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......That said, I AGREE with one thing the Democrats are pushing, and that's a limit being placed on the number of rounds in a clip or magazine. When used for hunting or home defense, you're never going to need more than 10 rounds and maybe it could be even lessened down to 6 rounds. Even in competitive shooting, they never shoot more than 6 rounds at a time. There's no need to ban clips or magazines, just ban those holding too many (whatever is chosen as too many) rounds...... .

What's too many? My small arms instructor has it ingrained to me to always carry 3 magazines. Always. Now, that is being upgraded to 4 magazines for, if, in sustained firefight with multiple opposing force, one should not finish it empty but have one more to reload on.


So, look at it this from A and B. A: Bob and a few of his friends are coming at you with base ball bats to do violence against you. How are you going to stop them. B: How many rounds will it take to convince them that this is really a bad idea and for them to be far, far away.......as oppose to, maybe we can get behind her?


Who are you to say how many rounds one needs in defence?
 
Old 09-14-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Have you ever shot at a running Antelope or deer? Even the best shots miss sometimes.

I wonder why people who have no clue, seem to feel qualified to lecture others?
Try to hit something as small as a rabbit running through the tall grass.
 
Old 09-14-2019, 10:55 AM
 
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OK. But seriously I don’t think anyone has to worry about their 22 rifles being banned.
When they say ban semi autos, that includes many 22s.
 
Old 09-14-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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What's too many? My small arms instructor has it ingrained to me to always carry 3 magazines. Always. Now, that is being upgraded to 4 magazines for, if, in sustained firefight with multiple opposing force, one should not finish it empty but have one more to reload on.


So, look at it this from A and B. A: Bob and a few of his friends are coming at you with base ball bats to do violence against you. How are you going to stop them. B: How many rounds will it take to convince them that this is really a bad idea and for them to be far, far away.......as oppose to, maybe we can get behind her?


Who are you to say how many rounds one needs in defence?
Here's why this statement is ignorant (not you Tamara but the person you were replying to).

Trained police officers typically have about a 20-30% hit rate in a shooting. So out of a 6 bullet magazine maybe 1 or 2 would be hits. It often times takes multiple hits to take down and neutralize a determined attacker especially if high on drugs. And often times criminals attack in groups, you may be up against multiple attackers (possibly armed with illegal high capacity mags) and you will have your 6 round mag and be dead but don't worry at least you were following the law and didn't make anti gunners nervous.


https://www.policeone.com/police-tra...ency-stack-up/
 
Old 09-14-2019, 11:10 AM
 
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The bullet most common for ARs is the .223. It is 3/1000 wider than a .22lr. they are extremely similar.
Nobody cares about your technicality. If it shoots a bullet, it must be banned.
 
Old 09-14-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jmgg View Post
I used to consider myself an independent and vote for the person and what they stood for. You would have to put a gun to my head today (pardon the pun based on the thread) to make me vote for any Democrat above the office of small town mayor as the party is run by absolute nuts now.

That said, I AGREE with one thing the Democrats are pushing, and that's a limit being placed on the number of rounds in a clip or magazine. When used for hunting or home defense, you're never going to need more than 10 rounds and maybe it could be even lessened down to 6 rounds. Even in competitive shooting, they never shoot more than 6 rounds at a time. There's no need to ban clips or magazines, just ban those holding too many (whatever is chosen as too many) rounds. Banning of guns like the AR-15 is just a bunch of talk by people that really don't know anything about guns. As if they are more dangerous than much larger guns that they never talk about like the 30-30's, 308's, & 30-06's which also are available as semi-automatics.

There you have it. The only thing that TODAY'S Democratic "leaders" have in all their talking points that makes any sense at all.
And another one demonstrates their ignorance. . .
 
Old 09-14-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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And another one demonstrates their ignorance. . .
They've obviously never seen a three gun competition.
 
Old 09-14-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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I just hope these mass shooters don't learn how to use pump action shotguns anytime soon.
Yeah that already happened. Mass shooting ... wasn't it in Texas somewhere? Yeah it was carried out with a shotgun and a revolver.

Yep, found it: https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...518-story.html

So there's the good guy with an AR-15 stopping the Sutherland Texas mass-shooter. You know that shooting that happened just a bit before Parkland that the media completely ignored and in which more people were killed? So good guy with an AR-15 there. And then after people like Joe Biden toss just settling for a shotgun or a revolver, you get a mass shooting or two done with revolvers and shotguns. And since legal precedent wouldn't allow governments to specifically ban "that one gun made by ArmaLite" then somebody's got to figure out how to ban the AR-15 by banning it by banning the features of the gun itself ... without banning every handgun, revolver and many other hunting rifles.
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