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Old 09-14-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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Not building the wall is a threat to national security.
I bet every base commander would agree their base requires a barrier to keep people out.
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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You incapable of actually comprehending the article?

There's a base in a foreign country that needs upgrades for the safety of our service men.

There's an expansion of a base on US soil for proper storage of over a billion dollars of munitions. Not properly, stored, risk not working when it comes to needing them.

There's a boiler at a base in Alaska that is on the verge of failure in an area that gets to -65. The base would need to be evacuated within hours and within hours will be frozen, costing tens of millions more than just putting the boiler in now.

This whole wall is ignorant. Border Patrol for the past couple decades hasn't been pushing for this. The GOP had Congress and the the White House and still couldn't approve it.
Do you know how many buildings are knocked down and being rebuilt to something newer, grander on a military installation? Did you know that many of the buildings or houses on old closed bases are still being used today? As part of the civilian world?
Do you get equally as upset when your local government gives the OK for a school that is maybe 40 years old to be completely demolished and rebuilt when it could be fixed up, repaired, and added on to?


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The SoD has no military experience
Is more a lobbyist for defense providers than an actual expert on what the forces need to do their jobs properly

The fact that the projects have been waiting to be done doesn’t mean that they can continue to wait years longer

And deferring US bases’ needs to NATO is just like Trump and his syncophants’ approach
Avoid responsibility and pass the buck...
Oh you mean like Ft Campbell building a new high school, when they are tweeking the old high school to become a middle school so they can do something else with another middle school? Welcome to the projects. Oh and lets not forget the moving of dirt, addition of rocks for a range....that had nothing wrong with it. Or the travel trailer that took out half a parking lot for a commissary so they can make a bigger grander PX (that tends to be more expensive than places off the military installation).

Here's how the military works. When something needs to be taken care of it goes up the chain of command. If the command comes down and asks for something to be looked at they do.
We will use the current military housing issue as an example. These idiot privately owned companies are being paid nicely to manage military housing. They are also collecting BAH for every family member in said housing.
When Senate caught word of all the military housing issues, they contacted the powers that be to get their collection of information to each unit to check their soldiers house out that lived on base/posts all over the world. Guess what, literally within days, they were out in housing checking it out, making their notes, then sending in their responses.
If military funding is pulled from one project and put onto another, I can guarantee it was treated in the same way.

I am one that will support a military budget for things that are truly needed. Everything gets an allotment. If they go over they don't go.
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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From the Air Force who appears willing to contradict their C in C for his theft of funds for military projects
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/militar...risks-n1054091

Likely other arms of the military have similar assessments that tell the truth about how Trump’s thefts are dangerous in various ways
Whether they allow them to be released so the Armed Services committees have something to fight with is difficult to say
Trump is so retaliatory that the people who had access to the AF report are likely going to face punishment
Whether THEY released the info or not
Trump is vindictive and the acting head of DOD is a real sycophant
Anyone who thinks Mattis would have allowed this deprivation to happen works for Trump
Last I read, the president is the elected official, not the DOD. The president, along with other elected officials in Congress, decide on funds and how they are spent, not non-elected DOD members. The president, along with elected officials, decide policy, make policy, not the DOD and non-elected members.
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Old 09-14-2019, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I agree. But that's not what President Trump is doing. The National Emergencies Act, passed by Congress decades ago, authorizes this transfer of funds. The Act allows Congress the right to vote down the transfer of funds, but that was attempted and rejected (and this legitimized the transaction under the act in my view).
Pssst— No emergency....
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:07 PM
 
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Pssst— No emergency....
50,000 apprehensions each month is not a crisis?

What number would make it a crisis?

Well, I guess if you want open borders, there wouldn't be a number.
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:50 PM
 
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how so? haven't had a wall for awhile - how has our country's national security been affected?
By having a porous border means anything and anyone can get across.
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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haven't heard a word out of the idiot in the WH about this for awhile - he only brings it up as a diversionary tactic or to rile up his dumb as rocks 30% base.
He just moved money over to build on the wall to help secure the border more.

That's what this thread is about.

I'll take actions over words.
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Old 09-14-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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He just moved money over to build on the wall to help secure the border more.

That's what this thread is about.

I'll take actions over words.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PedroMartinez again.
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Old 09-14-2019, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident View Post
I agree. But that's not what President Trump is doing. The National Emergencies Act, passed by Congress decades ago, authorizes this transfer of funds. The Act allows Congress the right to vote down the transfer of funds, but that was attempted and rejected (and this legitimized the transaction under the act in my view).
Circumventing congress is exactly what Trump is doing. Congress refused to have tax payers pay for his glorious wall so he circumvented them and took money away from the military. Actually congress voted to cancel the his emergency declaration but Trump vetoed it and the Republican lemmings in congress wouldn't strike his veto down. Bunch of traitors.
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Old 09-14-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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You incapable of actually comprehending the article?

There's a base in a foreign country that needs upgrades for the safety of our service men.

There's an expansion of a base on US soil for proper storage of over a billion dollars of munitions. Not properly, stored, risk not working when it comes to needing them.

There's a boiler at a base in Alaska that is on the verge of failure in an area that gets to -65. The base would need to be evacuated within hours and within hours will be frozen, costing tens of millions more than just putting the boiler in now.

This whole wall is ignorant. Border Patrol for the past couple decades hasn't been pushing for this. The GOP had Congress and the the White House and still couldn't approve it.

Why spend campaign money when you can just build a wall and put your name on it?
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