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Old 09-17-2019, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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I admire the homeowners good marksmanship......three dead thugs.

I’m sure all the protests will start, I know they were just babies, good kids... what’s this world coming to when three nice young thugs can’t rob a house without getting shot.
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Old 09-17-2019, 09:17 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I would guess that potentially lives were saved. Where would they go from armed robbery? Gangs? Selling drugs? Lives were saved.
You get 5-6 others and you form a roving gang beating and stealing like these 15-27yo's they just arrested in Minneapolis. Crime dropped huge when they got these guys off the streets.


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Old 09-17-2019, 09:21 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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This case is a good example of exactly why civilians need semi-automatic rifles with detachable box magazines. This rifle may well have saved the lives of several innocent people.
Did someone have to reload?
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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Well, they got a real taste of "thug life" and it wasn't too forgiving in the end. Sorry, no sympathy for those losers... They messed with the wrong people that day and got themselves shot the hell up for being stupid in a no stupid zone.

IMHO, it sounds like a good shooting me. If it goes to court, I'd take a jury trial since they will Be found innocent by the jury of their peers.
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Old 09-18-2019, 01:47 AM
 
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Excuses. That's all you have. Society failed them right?

Please enlighten me. Why do your kids need to be out past 10 pm?

My son has done very well, both daughters rising stars in their perspective fields.

Society can make excuses for thug behavior or it can lay blame where it belongs. That blame isn't at my door step.

Im 56 by the way, I was raised right and in turn raised mine right. Those thugs were created, not born.
I also stand by my statement. You either know right from wrong at 15 or you just don't give a damn. Every bit of their actions show that they knew what they were doing was wrong.
I thought being born was being created. Or do you mean those thugs were raised that way, not born that way? If that is true, society has a part in it. If they went through the school system, society has every part of it.
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Old 09-18-2019, 02:33 AM
 
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I admire the homeowners good marksmanship......three dead thugs.

I’m sure all the protests will start, I know they were just babies, good kids... what’s this world coming to when three nice young thugs can’t rob a house without getting shot.
They were just doing their "jobs".

Their lifelong "vocation".




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Old 09-18-2019, 03:15 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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I thought being born was being created. Or do you mean those thugs were raised that way, not born that way? If that is true, society has a part in it. If they went through the school system, society has every part of it.
Bad dog owners create bad dogs. The same is true of people. Bad parents create bad children. They dont teach them how to behave, how to respect, how to be responsible.

You can blame society, but I never hired a teacher or expected a teacher to teach my children, manners, respect, self respect, morals, honesty. integrity or honor. If you are looking for strangers to do those things for you then you have no business being a parent. Good Parents, own their children's behavior. I don't blame Mr Johnson up the road if my sone breaks I not his house. I blame me.

The schools system isn't in place to instruct our children on being honest or having integrity. When you abdicate those responsibilities to strangers you are no longer a fit parent.

Society had no control over those 3 thugs wearing masks, having a gun, and being out at 4 am. There are already laws against the gun, robbing people and in many places minors out roaming the streets at 4 am.
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Old 09-18-2019, 03:23 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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I bet it was a machine gun like Rambo has
Maybe it was a M249, wish I could have kept one from my time in the Marines.
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Old 09-18-2019, 03:33 AM
 
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Old 09-18-2019, 03:59 AM
 
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Bad dog owners create bad dogs. The same is true of people. Bad parents create bad children. They dont teach them how to behave, how to respect, how to be responsible.

You can blame society, but I never hired a teacher or expected a teacher to teach my children, manners, respect, self respect, morals, honesty. integrity or honor. If you are looking for strangers to do those things for you then you have no business being a parent. Good Parents, own their children's behavior. I don't blame Mr Johnson up the road if my sone breaks I not his house. I blame me.

The schools system isn't in place to instruct our children on being honest or having integrity. When you abdicate those responsibilities to strangers you are no longer a fit parent.

Society had no control over those 3 thugs wearing masks, having a gun, and being out at 4 am. There are already laws against the gun, robbing people and in many places minors out roaming the streets at 4 am.
My post was a reaction to the word "create".

I don't disagree with your points. You're ideas are more conventional. Mine are a bit more radical and a bit out there.

If society is telling me I should feel sympathy for them, then I hold society responsible for their behavior or whoever enabled their behavior in the past. If the consequences were not enough to stop their behaviors, then education needed to take center stage. If education was not enough, consequences needed to take center stage.

All of those things you mentioned, self respect, morals, manners, honesty, integrity, are learned through skills. Those very same skills are taught first at home, if the parent knows the skills. If they don't, they can't teach it. That is why some kids are better prepared for school than others. But for those other children that don't learn the skills at home, that is where the school steps in. And it should step in, that is what we are paying it for. Parents can only teach so much at home because the environment is limited to the family and its values. They hope the school shares the same values and are competent in teaching.

But if children are coming out of schools not being able to conclude that you shouldn't walk onto somebody else's yard without their permission, then they didn't teach the skills necessary to form that conclusion.
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