More spending: California governor wants 50,000 new housing vouchers for California and 300,000 new vouchers nationwide (minimum wage, legal)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
According to a report from the Seattle Times, most homeless are locals down on their luck, not transplants. The study said around 86% were local and another 6% were from elsewhere in the state - only around 8% were from out of state or illegal aliens. If these stats are anywhere close to those in CA, the great majority of the homeless are from the blue state of CA or illegals.
I am very familiar with the homeless number.
The numbers are FAKE.
First of all, they count people in jail as homeless.... LOL!!!!! Take my city San Francisco, for example, right off the bat, remove roughly 1,000 people from the homeless number because they are not actually homeless. That's about 15% of the homeless population gone from SF.
Of the remaining homeless population, roughly 10% came straight from out of state, another 20% lived in CA for less than a year, and another 35% lived in CA for less than 10 years. That's roughly 65% of the people who either never lived here or lived here for a short period of time.
And remember, those numbers are inflated to help the government and organizations raise money.
I actually asked a couple of reporters about the numbers - did the folks who conducted the study actually went down to the underground tunnels where many homeless live? How do they locate all these people without addresses? How do they ensure they weren't double/triple counting the same homeless, since they roam all around the city and might be found in different places; and they usually have no IDs? And the most curious question I have - how did they get answers from all these passed out, stoned out, high as a kite, or crazies who yell at lamp posts????????
In fact, I know the study NEVER went down to the underground city to conduct the survey because a documentary did and the "residents" there said they are the first normal people to come down there.
The numbers are fake and even by their fake numbers, more than half of the people don't belong in CA. Real numbers are likely going to show many many more out-of-staters living on our streets.
.
First of all, they count people in jail as homeless.... LOL!!!!! Take my city San Francisco, for example, right off the bat, remove roughly 1,000 people from the homeless number because they are not actually homeless. That's about 15% of the homeless population gone from SF.
Of the remaining homeless population, roughly 10% came straight from out of state, another 20% lived in CA for less than a year, and another 35% lived in CA for less than 10 years. That's roughly 65% of the people who either never lived here or lived here for a short period of time.
And remember, those numbers are inflated to help the government and organizations raise money.
I actually asked a couple of reporters about the numbers - did the folks who conducted the study actually went down to the underground tunnels where many homeless live? How do they locate all these people without addresses? How do they ensure they weren't double/triple counting the same homeless, since they roam all around the city and might be found in different places; and they usually have no IDs? And the most curious question I have - how did they get answers from all these passed out, stoned out, high as a kite, or crazies who yell at lamp posts????????
In fact, I know the study NEVER went down to the underground city to conduct the survey because a documentary did and the "residents" there said they are the first normal people to come down there.
The numbers are fake and even by their fake numbers, more than half of the people don't belong in CA. Real numbers are likely going to show many many more out-of-staters living on our streets.
.
Try using real data and articles - your "stats" are FAKE - you can't seem to back them up with real studies, articles or data.
This is what infuriates me about housing vouchers. First of all, where's my housing voucher? Oh, I live in a low cost city and I can afford my own home. If I lived in LA, I'd probably be homeless. That's why I don't live in LA.
What really galls me is how things like housing vouchers are geared up to match the cost of living, including the most expensive housing markets in the whole country. That means I'm shelling out valuable tax dollars to support someone's free rent at three thousand plus a month. My mortgage payment is a third of that amount, and that's paying for a nice house in a nice neighborhood. Why should the taxpayer be on the hook for paying inflated rents for people who can't afford to live in these places, just like I cannot afford to live there?
Wanna solve the housing problem in CA? Buy some buses and ship those people out to lower-cost states. Cap housing vouchers to the lowest housing costs in the USA and send the needy to those places. If they don't wanna go, that's on them. They can pay their own rent, or be homeless. No skin off my back.
Housing vouchers are unfair to those who pay cash for overpriced housing. People who don't get vouchers need to wake up and start realizing those who get the vouchers are their enemies as well as the Democrats who enable these programs.
What they never mention as part of the preassure that causes high prices and high demand for housing is the number of illegals. Send a million or so of those people who are here illegally, and that would help.
I think its funny. Some posters are all for deporting US citizens from other states that are there legally, but not people who are in the US illegally.
First of all, they count people in jail as homeless.... LOL!!!!! Take my city San Francisco, for example, right off the bat, remove roughly 1,000 people from the homeless number because they are not actually homeless. That's about 15% of the homeless population gone from SF.
Of the remaining homeless population, roughly 10% came straight from out of state, another 20% lived in CA for less than a year, and another 35% lived in CA for less than 10 years. That's roughly 65% of the people who either never lived here or lived here for a short period of time.
And remember, those numbers are inflated to help the government and organizations raise money.
I actually asked a couple of reporters about the numbers - did the folks who conducted the study actually went down to the underground tunnels where many homeless live? How do they locate all these people without addresses? How do they ensure they weren't double/triple counting the same homeless, since they roam all around the city and might be found in different places; and they usually have no IDs? And the most curious question I have - how did they get answers from all these passed out, stoned out, high as a kite, or crazies who yell at lamp posts????????
In fact, I know the study NEVER went down to the underground city to conduct the survey because a documentary did and the "residents" there said they are the first normal people to come down there.
The numbers are fake and even by their fake numbers, more than half of the people don't belong in CA. Real numbers are likely going to show many many more out-of-staters living on our streets.
.
You can't force a guy from NYC living on the streets in San Fran to leave. You do realize that?
Send those homeless back to their hometowns in red states. This is really their problem.
.
How would you know which ones came from red states? Ask for their papers? I hate to think what you would do to illegal immigrants. Oh wait, they have sanctuary cities.
They've been priced out of their beloved hometowns and states, but don't want to give up what they thought was their birthright, as they were growing up. The simple life to which they became accustomed, is now too expensive. More affluent people from other regions have displaced them, which is a sad fact of our current times.
People have been making economic migrations, since forever. And for whatever reason, some choose to remain in place, no matter how bad it gets.
A substantial percentage of unsheltered homeless have some serious mental health issues and/ or brains fried by drugs.
Imagine if one is living on the streets, it’s more survivable in LA than say Fargo, ND in January.
Nothing to do with politics of a city.
Last edited by middle-aged mom; 09-18-2019 at 07:51 AM..
Try using real data and articles - your "stats" are FAKE - you can't seem to back them up with real studies, articles or data.
BTW - In what world is 10 years a "short time"
It is NOT "10 years" it is "10 years or less" - meaning if a person lives in SF for 1 year and 1 day, that person falls under the "10 year or less" category.
I can't back up anything because no one has explained how they got this data. I came across many homeless in my daily routine, about 2 out of 5 are high, spaced out, not mentally there, or passed out; I can't figure out how the study managed to get coherent answers out of them. And I can't figure out how they gathered the data without going to where many homeless live.
Maybe you can explain to me.
.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
