Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-19-2019, 05:25 AM
 
Location: NJ
23,559 posts, read 17,227,205 times
Reputation: 17597

Advertisements

Trump has demonstrated his ability to intelligently judge a situation and apply appropriate action many times before.


Liberals and haters cannot distinguish degrees of an issue, only see things in extremes.


Because they declared trump an idiot, war monger who wants to start a war, they become confused by their own propaganda.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-19-2019, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
76,971 posts, read 47,629,107 times
Reputation: 14806
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
This assumes that we do not have some sort of secret under the table treaty with the Sauds from decades ago. One that would be problematic for them if it were announced to the Arab world but is quite likely to exist if you look around at their relationship with the US.

I'm not saying I like our foreign entanglements, but that reality and my personal desires are often at odds.
There is an alleged agreement that US would defend SA as long as they guarantee OPEC sells their oil in US dollars. It is called the petro-dollar warfare. However, many OPEC countries sell oil in other currencies, so there is no reason why we should honor Nixon era promises.

Besides, Saudis pretty much asked for this with their open ended war against the Yemenis. They are at war by their own choice, so they should have expected some kind of push back at some point. Not our problem.

If Iran actually over-ran Saudi Arabia, they would probably take Kuwait and other oil producing Arab nations too (Iraq would probably help Iran), and it would have a global effect, including US.

We were on the right track making a deal with Iran, but since US dishonored the deal, all bets are off.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-19-2019, 05:45 AM
 
Location: So Cal/AZ
998 posts, read 786,751 times
Reputation: 498
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoByFour View Post
Yup, just as Warren will be able to tear up any deals Trump makes.
Hillary couldn't do it and neither will Warren. Trump in 2020
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-19-2019, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
39,078 posts, read 51,231,444 times
Reputation: 28324
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBMorgan View Post
Trump said that since Saudi Arabia was a great customer of our defense industry, we owe them protection.

Trump

They spend $400 billion in our country over the last number of years. Four hundred billion dollars. That’s a million and a half jobs. And they’re not ones that, unlike some countries, where they want terms; they want terms and conditions. They want to say, “Can we borrow the money at zero percent for the next 400 years?” No. No. Saudi Arabia pays cash.

Yet, in 2014 he was different in his stance....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...orruption.html
LOL. Is there a single issue where Trump did not have a different stance 2, 5, 10, 20 years ago? No wonder he is all over the map with his policies and his reaction to the Saudi attack. He is struggling in playing a role that is not in agreement with his core beliefs.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-19-2019, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
26,211 posts, read 19,521,305 times
Reputation: 21679
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
It is obvious at this point that the oil attacks in Saudi Arabia were coordinated by Iran. This has caused a spike in oil prices all over the world. The only thing Trump has done is order more sanctions on Iran.

But isn't this an act or war which calls for military action on Iran? It looks to me like Iran has crossed a red line here.
How much military hardware have they bought from us? Why do WE have to go to war? Do WE need to defend a country against a Iran, the same country responsible for 9/11?

Yea, sure thing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-19-2019, 11:00 AM
 
21,430 posts, read 7,456,856 times
Reputation: 13233
Does anybody else think that Trump is displaying extreme restraint with Iran?


Trump needs a tramp stamp with MbS in big gothic letters on it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-19-2019, 11:02 AM
 
18,449 posts, read 8,275,501 times
Reputation: 13778
Bolton would have leveled them already....thank God he's gone
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-19-2019, 11:04 AM
 
21,933 posts, read 9,503,108 times
Reputation: 19456
Quote:
Originally Posted by tamajane View Post
They SJWs were so worried he would be pushing the button right and left. He is in no hurry to get into any wars.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-19-2019, 11:05 AM
 
21,933 posts, read 9,503,108 times
Reputation: 19456
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Trump has demonstrated his ability to intelligently judge a situation and apply appropriate action many times before.


Liberals and haters cannot distinguish degrees of an issue, only see things in extremes.


Because they declared trump an idiot, war monger who wants to start a war, they become confused by their own propaganda.
How many wars Trump has started:0.

They call EVERY Republican a war monger, a racist, etc.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-19-2019, 11:09 AM
 
21,430 posts, read 7,456,856 times
Reputation: 13233
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
But isn't this an act or war which calls for military action on Iran?
What are you thinking?

Of course it's an act of war, just like Saudi Arabia bombing Yemen is an act of war. That kind of violence is war.

If Iran had done that to our country, we would be justified in responding. If they do it to Turkmenistan, Turkmenistan is justified in responding. If they do it to China, China is justified in responding. If they do it to Saudi Arabia, the Saudis can just put their big boy pants on and handle it.

This has nothing to do with us.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:56 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top