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Specifically what are your solutions to reduce gang-related violence?
Specifically, what are your solutions to reduce gun-related suicides?
Specifically, what are your solutions to reduce one-off mass shootings like Dayton, El Paso, Parkland, Vegas, etc?
Seems like you acknowledge that you just made up that bit that I quoted in red, so thats a start.
My solutions are pretty simple.
Enforce the rules in the books already, such as making sure the NICS database is updated in a timely and accurate manner. If not, then persons found to be responsible for not doing so are charged with a felony.
Significantly improve our mental health care in this country.
Significantly improve our educational system.
For the last two, that means stop just throwing money at these politicized entities and do things that actually make sense.
We understand how the left operates … incrementalism. AR-15's today, long guns tomorrow, handguns next week. Bump stocks yesterday, magazines holding over six rounds today, an "ammo tax" next week. Gun registration yesterday, a firearms owner database tomorrow, confiscation next week. Mandatory gun safes and trigger locks yesterday, fingerprint-reader firearms tomorrow.
I don't believe that's where it's going. Sorry you think that way. Everyone's looking for common ground. Perhaps you're not someone that can be reached on this issue. Same with those on the left that believe all guns should be banned. Most people in the country don't believe in either extremes.
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Originally Posted by ADogNamedSam
The line is in the sand, "No farther". I reject your statement … it is apparent to me that the left wants gun ownership limited to bodyguards of politicians and celebrities, and some police. Oh … and thugs and criminals, because by definition they don't give a flying eff about the law.
Other than that you reject my statement, this is wildly inaccurate.
What does the NRA have to do with those facts that poster replied with ? The NRA doesn't influence me in the least. I've been a firearms enthusiast the past 28 years and was an NRA member for maybe 5 of those. I just recently signed back up though after the nitwits in California declared them a terrorist organization.
If a woman has the right to end a fetus life because of a horrible disease that will effect the fetus, why shouldn't an adult have the right to terminate its own life if they have an intolerable condition?
Specifically what are your solutions to reduce gang-related violence?
Specifically, what are your solutions to reduce gun-related suicides?
Specifically, what are your solutions to reduce one-off mass shootings like Dayton, El Paso, Parkland, Vegas, etc?
Fingerprint- reader firearms would, over a period of time, go a long way towards mitigating gang related violence because most are not lawfully able to posess a firearm.
I am not into suicide prevention. ( There I sad it)
The one off high victim count mass shootings are a different animal. The semi- automatic seems to be the weapon of choice by those into the competition of killing the most people in a small window of time. Obviously such weapons make people feel powerful. And obviously, some of them are among the weakest creatures in the US from a stability standpoint.
Determining who is stable enough to own/ posess such firearms is highly subjective and anything but fool proof. Some countries solved this challenge by requiring certin weapons to be physically stored and used at only approved locations- gun clubs, ranges etc.
Fingerprint- reader firearms would, over a period of time, go a long way towards mitigating gang related violence because most are not lawfully able to posess a firearm.
I am not into suicide prevention. ( There I sad it)
The one off high victim count mass shootings are a different animal. The semi- automatic seems to be the weapon of choice by those into the competition of killing the most people in a small window of time. Obviously such weapons make people feel powerful. And obviously, some of them are among the weakest creatures in the US from a stability standpoint.
Determining who is stable enough to own/ posess such firearms is highly subjective and anything but fool proof. Some countries solved this challenge by requiring certin weapons to be physically stored and used at only approved locations- gun clubs, ranges etc.
I have a fingerprint reader on my cell phone, sometimes it takes 5-6 tries to get it right, sometimes it locks it and requires a manual input of a password. Do you really think thats a good idea for an item that is often needed in an emergency?
I have a fingerprint reader on my cell phone, sometimes it takes 5-6 tries to get it right, sometimes it locks it and requires a manual input of a password. Do you really think thats a good idea for an item that is often needed in an emergency?
Those that lack common sense don't care , what's one dead firearms owner ? Think of the children...
First, it didn't jam in Dayton. So it's irrelevant.
Second. I don't really care what pictures you post. If you are okay with preventable death, just say "I'm okay with preventable death" instead of posting random pictures on the internet. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just a suggestion.
He could have accomplished the same with a C-Products 40 round magazine. He only shot 41 times.
It wasn't a random picture. It was purposely chosen to make a point. That Ruger Mini-30 is functionally the same as an AK-47. It is a semi-automatic, magazine fed rifle that shoots a 7.62x39mm cartridge. No one has ever questioned the ownership of a Mini-30 rifle.
And equivalent comparison would be like saying the Ford F-150 truck is evil and dangerous but the Chevy Silverado and Toyota Tundra are perfectly OK to own.
Also, I'm not OK with violence against innocents. On the other hand, I am not against violence. When required it should be swift, focused and rise to the level required to stop unnecessary violence.
You say this was preventable and I agree. This guy more than enough warning signs that he should not have been allowed to walk among peaceful people. If you want to blame someone, there are many people who knew him and ignored the warning signs.
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