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Old 09-19-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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It is incontrovertible that CCW programs help deter crimes virtually everywhere they exist. The Florida experience is typical.

I would like to propose that President Trump, via Executive Order, direct the creation and implementation of a National CCW Permitting Program where permits would be issued on a "Shall-Issue" basis. It would include a background check, and the only basis for a denial of Permit would be a failure of said check.

The permit issue would be valid and enforceable by the Federal Government in ALL states and territories, and a refusal or failure of State of Local governments/agencies to honor such permits would be considered to be, and handled as, a violation of Civil Rights and prosecutable under cognizant federal statutes.

Once the procedures and process are crafted, operation of the program can be handled by the NRA and/or other gun-rights focused Civil Rights NGOs, funded by a small administrative fee.

Such a program would take a HUGE bite our of crime.
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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It is incontrovertible that CCW programs help deter crimes virtually everywhere they exist. The Florida experience is typical.

I would like to propose that President Trump, via Executive Order, direct the creation and implementation of a National CCW Permitting Program where permits would be issued on a "Shall-Issue" basis. It would include a background check, and the only basis for a denial of Permit would be a failure of said check.

The permit issue would be valid and enforceable by the Federal Government in ALL states and territories, and a refusal or failure of State of Local governments/agencies to honor such permits would be considered to be, and handled as, a violation of Civil Rights and prosecutable under cognizant federal statutes.

Once the procedures and process are crafted, operation of the program can be handled by the NRA and/or other gun-rights focused Civil Rights NGOs, funded by a small administrative fee.

Such a program would take a HUGE bite our of crime.
Common sense approach
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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It will only happen if Rs sweep the elections and even then it might be a long shot.
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:17 AM
 
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It will only happen if Rs sweep the elections and even then it might be a long shot.
A promise to implement it would insure re-election.
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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Believe me you don't want a national CCW permit issued as an EO. When a Dem President comes into office, he or she can instantly change that EO to, for instance, require each permit holder to show cause why they need a concealed weapon. And since Federal law overrides state law, that would means the states would be powerless to do anything about it. It is a two-edged sword and for those who like to carry guns around you are better off letting your state manage its own CCW process.
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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Believe me you don't want a national CCW permit issued as an EO. When a Dem President comes into office, he or she can instantly change that EO to, for instance, require each permit holder to show cause why they need a concealed weapon. And since Federal law overrides state law, that would means the states would be powerless to do anything about it. It is a two-edged sword and for those who like to carry guns around you are better off letting your state manage its own CCW process.
Good point.
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:40 AM
 
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It would be held up for many years by the courts. Several states have constitutional carry by state law. We are not eager to give that up.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:03 AM
 
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I've already been back ground checked , finger printed , and take a class ever 5 years for my CPL renewal.
I get background checked every time I purchase a new firearm, and my handguns are registered.
What more is it that you want ?
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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It is incontrovertible that CCW programs help deter crimes virtually everywhere they exist. The Florida experience is typical.

I would like to propose that President Trump, via Executive Order, direct the creation and implementation of a National CCW Permitting Program where permits would be issued on a "Shall-Issue" basis. It would include a background check, and the only basis for a denial of Permit would be a failure of said check.

The permit issue would be valid and enforceable by the Federal Government in ALL states and territories, and a refusal or failure of State of Local governments/agencies to honor such permits would be considered to be, and handled as, a violation of Civil Rights and prosecutable under cognizant federal statutes.

Once the procedures and process are crafted, operation of the program can be handled by the NRA and/or other gun-rights focused Civil Rights NGOs, funded by a small administrative fee.

Such a program would take a HUGE bite our of crime.
LMAO, you want to put the NRA in charge of administering a federal program on guns?

The gun nuttery is strong in this one.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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LMAO, you want to put the NRA in charge of administering a federal program on guns?

The gun nuttery is strong in this one.
So you must be against the NICS (background check system) and all the hunting and firearms safety courses that the NRA has created.

I just can't understand the failed logic of the anti gun crowd...
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