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Old 09-20-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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If its man-made why can not man fix it?


Your post is a non-sequitur.
Much in the way its easy to gain wright but hard to lose it.

Factories, cars, etc. we embedded them into iur aociet.

Not that they’re bad. We need power, cars are a good option for transportation. The problem is we didn’t have any foresight.

For example, Los angeles is one of the biggest cities built around the car. We even dismantled our rail system for a long time. Add to the idea of a giant city made up of mostly suburban style homes or low rise apartments, you get sprawled out. People did it because of the idea that every man has his own acre of land and the car is a symbol of freedom.


Fast forward to 2019. Your stuck for an hr and 2mph traffic. You’d take the train but the rail doesn’t go your route, and they are gonna build it but it wont be completed for another 3 yrs.

Then in the 90s you had smog issues, and we still so now, but nowhere near as bad.

Then the sprawl for ing people to commute further.

So we see this issues today and the city is trying to change. Now imagine they saw that 40 yrs ago(they actually did and proposed many rail projects)? We’d be a different city.

But unfortunately all this is embedded into our society and its a huge task of getting people to change. The alternative is cleaner and more efficient tech. But the problem is that converting is a huge inconvenience.

So its the same everywhere else in the world. We’ve painted ourselves into a corner.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I think it's cheaper to clean up after natural disasters than try to tax and regulate our way out of global warming.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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I’ve been watching the climate change debate for 30 odd years. The science has only become stronger and stronger that it is occurring, to the point that scientists aren’t even debating its existence anymore... that’s only for Koch brothers lobbyists now.

Yep. There was a point in human history when no one debated the fact that the earth was flat, too.


When scientists stop looking for evidence, they are no longer scientists.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Check out Isaac's storm - the hurricane that hit Galveston, TX in 1900. Or the 1915 storm that hit Galveston. Or the 1875 hurricane that struck Indianola, TX. Or the 1886 storm that wiped out Indianola. The town site is now noted with a granite marker.


Current WEATHER phenomena should not be used to indicate CLIMATE change.
Definitely agree.

Yes, the 1900 Galveston hurricane was really disastrous, along with the other ones you mentioned.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:04 PM
 
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Just the beginning.

Wait until 30 year mortgages disappear, insurance rates becomes all but unaffordable in coastal, flood and wilderness areas, and tropical diseases become the norm in the northern climes.

Oh, but who cares. You'll be dead and it will be your children's problem. Who cares about them anyway. Ain't that right, Deniers?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...d-dead-US.html
And yet more apocalyptic garbage from the usual suspects.
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Old 09-21-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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Hurricanes are growing in both size and power. They spawn tornadoes and dropped massive amounts of rain. Texas has been hit repeatedly and the hardest. New Orleans never fully recovered from Katrina. Florida is about due for one of these monster storms. BTW, don't be surprised when NYC is hit with a massive tidal surge that floods most of the tunnels.

When you think of older hurricanes you must also consider the construction at the time. No building inspections or permits. The damage we are seeing today is to buildings which were built to hurricane standards.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...limate-change/
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