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I can't understand why people never ask the question WHY are healthcare costs going up so much? There are lots of reasons including mandating insurance companies cover things like 4 attempts at IVF. Also, they can now cure Hep C and the cost is around $100k to cure it. There was a study that just came out recently that said that something like 50% of Medicare patients had a surgery in their last week of life. Why? Why would you do surgery on someone who had little chance of surviving? The end of life measures are ridiculous. Just because you can extend someone's life by a week or two doesn't mean you should. I could go on and on but I won't. But anyone who thinks the government takeover is going to solve the problem is delusional. In fact, look at every big government program. Look at education. It's a big money pit and the outcomes are horrible.
It’s ALWAYS about the money yeah said person might die two days later but their insurance will pay up.
People are not necessarily expecting a decrease overall, although that would be nice, but in some areas we can control costs and gain efficiencies, making healthcare more affordable and more readily available to ordinary folks.
Healthcare insurance companies can make as much as 30% profit, and before the ACA many plans were much worse. That's just wasting money. This has always been great for investors and big money donors to Republican campaigns but it sucks for ordinary folks in need of care.
On another front, it would be very helpful if the Federal government could negotiate better drug prices, the USA is a big market when taken as a whole, with a lot of purchasing power we can leverage. Other countries do this and have benefitted with great pricing (compared to us), as can be attested by how many people (seniors often) who fill prescriptions in Canada and other countries.
Together we can manage these costs, stabilize them or slow down the increases and in some cases reduce them, but going back to what we had all my life before 2009 is not how it is done.
No, its not a straw man argument.
Single payer means everyone gets care for FREEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
Um, not even close. When has the govt taken over something and suddenly was paying LESS for it than the private market?
When ACA was introduced, many coverage costs skyrocketed. As did cost for the majority of people.
Think all those billion dollar insurance companies are just going to step aside and let the govt deprive them of their profits?
Um, no again, we will be paying the govt who will be paying the insurance companies. And costs will increase with another added layer.
People seriously do not understand how the GOVERNMENT in the US actually WORKS.
I can't understand why people never ask the question WHY are healthcare costs going up so much? There are lots of reasons including mandating insurance companies cover things like 4 attempts at IVF. Also, they can now cure Hep C and the cost is around $100k to cure it. There was a study that just came out recently that said that something like 50% of Medicare patients had a surgery in their last week of life. Why? Why would you do surgery on someone who had little chance of surviving? The end of life measures are ridiculous. Just because you can extend someone's life by a week or two doesn't mean you should. I could go on and on but I won't. But anyone who thinks the government takeover is going to solve the problem is delusional. In fact, look at every big government program. Look at education. It's a big money pit and the outcomes are horrible.
PUBLIC HEALTH
Surgery Near End of Life Is Common, Costly
...Surgery like this has become all too common among those near the end of life, experts say. Nearly 1 in 3 Medicare patients undergo an operation in the year before they die, even though the evidence shows that many are more likely to be harmed than to benefit from it....
There is a poster on this forum who has answered those questions, several times. I haven't seen one lately, but he's been detailing it, very well, honestly, and it completely answers your questions. I don't have time to find any specific thread/post for you, but look up Mircea's history - he's done this multiple times, usually to deaf ears.
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