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Old 09-23-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Welcome to the hypocrisy of the democrats.

Like labeling everything 'Fake News' while supplying nothing factual with their own reporting?





Oh! Wait!

It's not a Democrat behind that movement!

Never mind.

 
Old 09-23-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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NO.....your "end of story" clearly implied that there should be no consequences to this black person making an antisemitic comment. Only after I called you out on it, as No Recess pointed out, did you reverse and say there should b consequences.

And in MY original post, I was addressing the hypocrisy of a black politician fighting back against racism and bigotry while making anti-Jew comments - and then having other black politicians defend her, as is what happened here.
Clearly you misunderstood because I have clarified my point.

No where in my original point did I suggest there shouldn't be consequences. And my posts have been quite consistent on this message board...I believe in consequences for bad behavior.

You misunderstood, have been corrected and still choose to make up what I said and meant.

And yes it is hypocritical of this person to use language that is not acceptable given their situation.

Folks are quick to attack and quick to defend depending on their political agendas.
 
Old 09-23-2019, 09:26 AM
 
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In 2019 every should know that using a term like that is a nasty thing to say. To say otherwise is garbage. We said lots of things back in the 70s and 80s that we now know were nasty and as times change we move forward we all know that that term is an ugly one and shouldn't be used.

For some reason black people seem to get a pass when using derogatory terms for other people. Me as a middle aged white guy can't say a damn thing. LOL, we're pretty much on the bottom rung of the intersectionality totem pole.
Yes, the willingness of so many liberals to excuse or downplay antisemitic comments made by blacks makes me wonder: are they simply unwilling to criticize blacks, or are they more tolerant of ant-Jew comments than they would be if some similar bigoted comments were made against any other group, including blacks themselves, or Latinos, or Muslims, or gays?

I think it's a bit of both.
 
Old 09-23-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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is it even that inappropriate? It simply means that one is good at bargaining a better deal.....
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In 2019 every should know that using a term like that is a nasty thing to say. To say otherwise is garbage. We said lots of things back in the 70s and 80s that we now know were nasty and as times change we move forward we all know that that term is an ugly one and shouldn't be used.

For some reason black people seem to get a pass when using derogatory terms for other people. Me as a middle aged white guy can't say a damn thing. LOL, we're pretty much on the bottom rung of the intersectionality totem pole.
What racist double standard? ;-)
 
Old 09-23-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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NO.....your "end of story" clearly implied that there should be no consequences...


I think that's you projecting, honestly.


I read "end of story" as in "there is no excuse/justification for what was said".


 
Old 09-23-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Yes, the willingness of so many liberals to excuse or downplay antisemitic comments made by blacks makes me wonder: are they simply unwilling to criticize blacks, or are they more tolerant of ant-Jew comments than they would be if some similar bigoted comments were made against any other group, including blacks themselves, or Latinos, or Muslims, or gays?

I think it's a bit of both.
I think it is both also. Blacks get a pass because today's Progressives are so riddled with White Guilt they can't help themselves. Also, many just dislike Jews, well because they're Jews. Even Secular Progressive Jews often don't support other Jews. It as if they are ashamed to be Jewish for whatever reason.
 
Old 09-23-2019, 11:38 AM
 
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..wonder if people would be so 'up in arms' if this clown used the word 'gypped' (derogatory term for gypsy's) instead of 'jew down'...
 
Old 09-23-2019, 12:09 PM
 
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Growing up in the Midwest it was a common expression 65 years ago. Thankfully whenever I go to visit I never hear anyone using it anymore.
 
Old 09-23-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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..wonder if people would be so 'up in arms' if this clown used the word 'gypped' (derogatory term for gypsy's) instead of 'jew down'...
When I was growing up I heard gypped and jewed down and a whole slew of other terms. When I was a kid people just said that stuff and as a kid I never gave it much attention. That was a long time ago. I think people should make efforts to be more respectful in general. Being polite is never a bad thing in my opinion.
 
Old 09-23-2019, 12:16 PM
 
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Growing up in the Midwest it was a common expression 65 years ago. Thankfully whenever I go to visit I never hear anyone using it anymore.
As a little kid in the 80's in my tiny home town, it was one of the first phrases I learned. Super common.

Sometime in my early teens maybe, I learned that Jew was a people and religion, not a different word for bargain. It was always used in a way that implied total victory in the bargaining process. Baseball cards, a used bicycle tire, someone's older brothers shirt with skulls or swear words...

Stranger yet is there were basically no Jewish people in my hometown. Yet it's still a common saying. Not sure how it arrived there.
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