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Old 09-27-2019, 06:26 AM
 
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Thank you!! That is the point. I have more respect for Rice, Carson, and Scott than I do for Owen. This is not about being Black and conservative. This is about being a shill. Candace Owen is basically a shill. Stacey Dash is even worse. I'll talk about her later. Owen might have some conservative views. She might have some things to say that many Blacks need to hear. However, she isn't doing it for the Black population. She's being very critical of Black people to please her audience. She does FOX News' dirty work. She isn't there to attract a larger Black audience. Many know that alot of Blacks won't watch her. That's kind of the point.

If she is concerned that Blacks are somehow being taken advantage of politically, then she needs to go talk to Black people herself. It's known that Blacks are barely 2 percent of the FOX News audience.
If anyone bothered to pay attention, Black Republicans keep their heads down and do not jump up like a banshee to yell at a camera in support of Trump every five min. Black Republicans do not like Trump, his antics, or how he claimed that Obama was not a citizen (politics is separate from that kind of personal attack).

Republicans can literally look at their own elected Black officials or appointees and see that their behavior over the past 3 years is much different than say Nunez or Lindsey Graham. Black voters regardless of party do not like pledging loyalty to no one, bowing to another man, or having to answer questions to defend another person's actions.

I have no idea what Candice Owens is (shill, grifter, passionate debater) but her behavior is way off from actual Elected Black Republican officials and appointees. She is putting on a show which is why other Black people look at her, Laugh, and move on. She is behaving more like Al Sharpton than say a Senator Scott from SC who is well respected in the black community and a Republican.
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Old 09-27-2019, 06:32 AM
 
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Prove it. You make the claim, but offer ZERO evidence. You could say the same for any political activist who made bank from activism, whether MLK Jr. & family, Jesse Jackson, or Barack Obama who now has multi-million $$ mansions in Chicago, DC, and the Hamptons.

To say things like this about people on either side is just magical (and lazy) thinking. You imagine a motive in your mind and conclude it to be true because they happen to be on the other side politically.

Prove it, or retract it.

Everything that everyone does is for a selfish reason. There is no such thing as a "selfless" act. Every action or choice taken is to maximize the reward to oneself. In light of that, a few posters have made excellent points. If she was really concerned about black people....she would be addressing black people. Thus, Candice's "self" sees no value in trying to help black people with the knowledge she posses that they supposedly need to heed. Her "self" feels rewarded by telling white people about how dysfunctional and irresponsible black people are. Hence, she is either doing it for monetary reward....or vengeance against blacks for being "scorned" or "shunned" in some way.



If you want to help black people.....you go to black people. If you want to help white people....you go to white people. Candice goes to white people to caste aspersion upon black people. Apparently there is value in this to white people as they will promote you for it. It must help them (feel less racist because a black person is saying it?). These people, like Candice, become PROXIES or mercenaries in the war on the the nature of black people.

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Old 09-27-2019, 06:42 AM
 
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Prove it. You make the claim, but offer ZERO evidence. You could say the same for any political activist who made bank from activism, whether MLK Jr. & family, Jesse Jackson, or Barack Obama who now has multi-million $$ mansions in Chicago, DC, and the Hamptons.

To say things like this about people on either side is just magical (and lazy) thinking. You imagine a motive in your mind and conclude it to be true because they happen to be on the other side politically.

Prove it, or retract it.
She was mostly a blogger and a website host. Even if she didn't make more money from this, she became famous from it. Her major claim to fame before that was helping in Gamergate by having her website not take down the doxxing of the female developers who were alleged to sleep their way to good reviews. It is clear to see she wasn't famous and then one day when she became a shill, she was. That is your proof.
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Old 09-27-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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She was mostly a blogger and a website host. Even if she didn't make more money from this, she became famous from it. Her major claim to fame before that was helping in Gamergate by having her website not take down the doxxing of the female developers who were alleged to sleep their way to good reviews. It is clear to see she wasn't famous and then one day when she became a shill, she was. That is your proof.

Attention is a powerful motivator for some. The behavior that rewards you attention and or money....will get double down on. Many mass shootings are really a cry for attention. Selling out the nature of your race can get you attention and money.
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:31 AM
 
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Candace Owens supports Hitler’s domestic agenda. Her opinion is worthless.
Adding you to the list of people putting words into Candace O’s mouth. She’s never said this or anything close to it
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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You have SERIOUS comprehension issues. You completely misunderstood what she was saying in this clip
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Old 09-27-2019, 08:06 AM
 
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I'm trying to figure out if this thread is a drinking game where every time someone says Hitler they take a shot?

Or is it like Super Troopers where they have a game where they say "Meow" thrown into sentences.....kinda like, my favorite sports team Hitler is the Philadelphia Hitler Eagles and I also like chocolate hitler cake and Game of hitler Thrones.
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Old 09-27-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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You have SERIOUS comprehension issues. You completely misunderstood what she was saying in this clip
That poster is pro-Hitler, they're just trying to throw people off by saying it about others.
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Old 09-27-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Prove it. You make the claim, but offer ZERO evidence. You could say the same for any political activist who made bank from activism, whether MLK Jr. & family, Jesse Jackson, or Barack Obama who now has multi-million $$ mansions in Chicago, DC, and the Hamptons.

To say things like this about people on either side is just magical (and lazy) thinking. You imagine a motive in your mind and conclude it to be true because they happen to be on the other side politically.

Prove it, or retract it.

1) You want me to prove something you cannot disprove? Fascinating.
If you know her personally then please expound on what made her agree that Hitler was not such a bad guy. That type of statement is made by someone who is talking themselves into a circle to justify a viewpoint or conclusion already reached without a clear path to get there. She does not have well thought out viewpoints just re-canned one liners that dozens of pundits on the Right say daily.


What new insight is she bringing, what brilliant statement has made you take pause? Or does she just repeat what you already like and agree too. She moves no votes to Republicans, just parrots talking points. Prove Me Wrong if you disagree (this you could actually disprove). I'm giving a fair chance.

2) Am I suppose to be upset at capitalism for Obama's mansion? He and his wife wrote a best seller (made millions) and are popular with the general public, what do you suppose we do about that? If people could not get the public to hate him after 8 years as President then it's not going to happen now. Guy has a 60+ percent likable rating in polls, more popular than ever now. People like celebrities and Obama is not considered one, he will make money from now on just showing up places like a Kardashian. Trump benefited greatly from his name recognition and TV persona so this should not be a mystery.


3) Jesse Jackson rode MLK's coat tails and every black person in America already knows this. He is useful when needed to bring attention to a subject in the Black community but is put back on the shelf when his services are no longer needed as he is a liability (only concerned with self). He brings money and press to black issues, that is the only service he provides but some how people outside the black community still have a hard on for him. Amazing you never hear Black Folk call Jesse Jackson's name but others say it as if Black folk warship at his alter.

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Old 09-27-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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I think there is a Trump impact on the economy that is positive. Its not, however, because of his economic policies, however. I think Trump restores confidence in white males in particular and whites in general. People often don't realize how much confidence plays in economics. Confident people take more risks, invest more....spend more. Whites have, by far, the greatest influence on the economy from their collective investment and spending. They were less confident under Obama and hence more cautious and thrift, despite pedal to the metal on economic stimulus (low interest rates, government spending, etc).



I think whites are less confident in "others" running the country. It's seen as a "change" for the worse and a threat to traditions. These feeling manifest mostly in people over 40. This is also the demographic with the most purchasing power and wealth. Young people might think differently, to some degree, but they don't have a lot of money to influence how things go.


The Trump effect on the economy is NOT the result of being a republican and enacting republican policies. Sure, he gave a tax cut and that is Republican like......but they are supposed to be the party of "small government" and fiscal responsibility. The deficit and the debt has increased tremendously under Trump. The size of government has GROWN. That is not being a "Republican/Conservative". The Trump impact is due to his being "white" and sending out signals that inspires confidence in white males.
Trump economic impact is positive, but not because of economic policy. Do you even know what his economic policy is? ...or at least the key ingredients?

I don't know what you are trying to say except white folk look out for each other (which honestly is what black folk do as well), and that somehow has something to do with the economy.

People were less confident under Obama because the foundation to make investments in business were shaky and experience due to excessive regulations and taxes.
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