Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 10-06-2019, 10:21 AM
 
18,557 posts, read 7,362,427 times
Reputation: 11372

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by grad_student200 View Post
The country is so polarized between the far right and far left that I honestly can't tell if the impeachment has (1) a legitimate basis or (2) just a political move meant to ostensibly seek justice but has more ulterior motives (whatever they may be).
For starters, you could consider the fact that Trump didn't doing anything illegal. The "whistleblower" suggested a violation of campaign finance laws, but Attorney General Barr and Robert Mueller (see pages 284-301 of the Mueller Report) said that claim wouldn't fly in a court of law.

 
Old 10-06-2019, 10:28 AM
 
7,447 posts, read 2,830,901 times
Reputation: 4922
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBMorgan View Post
The one thing he didn't do it get Trump to testify like Clinton did. That would have got him in several lies, I'm thinking. The take-home written testimony was all done by Trump's lawyers with no cross-examination like Clinton had to go through.

Kenneth Starr took way more time to finish his report than Mueller. The net cost was more as well since Mueller recouped his expenses by indicting and imprisoning Trump's campaign manager ($40 mil recovered).
Trump got the kid glove treatment the whole way and still cant stay above board.
 
Old 10-06-2019, 10:37 AM
 
3,646 posts, read 3,781,694 times
Reputation: 5561
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4dognight View Post
If people would use their brain they'd have figured it out by now.

If the DEMs who DESPISE President Trump, knows he has all the information on their treasonous actions which will bring them down, had ANY impeachable offense on Trump they'd have started proceedings 2 years ago.
And the Repubs who aren't vocal against this sham of impeachment are also guilty of lining their pockets and fear, or know, they will eventually be exposed.
 
Old 10-06-2019, 10:57 AM
 
7,293 posts, read 4,091,858 times
Reputation: 4670
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBMorgan View Post
The one thing he didn't do it get Trump to testify like Clinton did. That would have got him in several lies, I'm thinking. The take-home written testimony was all done by Trump's lawyers with no cross-examination like Clinton had to go through.

Kenneth Starr took way more time to finish his report than Mueller. The net cost was more as well since Mueller recouped his expenses by indicting and imprisoning Trump's campaign manager ($40 mil recovered).
Do you have a source?

This is the most recent source I could find--

On social media, complaints about Mueller’s spending are sometimes met with a retort that the investigation paid for itself given related asset forfeitures.

We wondered if that were true and found there isn’t a direct link.


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...tigation-cost/
 
Old 10-06-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: The 719
17,986 posts, read 27,444,769 times
Reputation: 17295
John Ratcliffe talking about Volker interview and the Transcripts... " The IGs testimony on Friday will shock you."

Adam Schiff made the decision to hide these interviews from the public because they aren't good for the democrats and their narrative.

When you see the Transcripts, you'll see that Schiff is a material witness and he should recuse himself from the investigation.

WaPo gave Schiff 4 Pinocchios for his lies here.

We are not taking Schiff's word for it, he will be put under oath here.

Why is this being done in the Intel Committee rather than the Judiciary Committee? This is to be sneaky little rats because Pelosi knows Jerry Nadler is a complete idiot and to do this "impeachment inquiry"™ behind closed doors, ...

Good!

LUCK!

Wit!

Dat!



You guys are such morons.

This is worse than Mueller Time and the whole Russia Collusion Hoax™!

You guys aren't even worthy of being our proper adversaries.

Just sort of slither away.
 
Old 10-06-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: DFW
40,952 posts, read 49,155,879 times
Reputation: 54995
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBMorgan View Post
Six of Trump's circle have been indicted, put in jail. Ten cases of obstruction found against Trump. Russian operatives (over 20) were indicted. The report clearly states Russia assisted and influenced the election.
LOL.... NO American was charged with any crime related to Russia or the 2016 election.

The 20 Russians were charged knowing nobody would ever be brought to court. They might as well charged 100 since it was all bogus and just for show.

No one has gone to prison or even been tried for anything about Russia or 2016.

Give it up.
 
Old 10-06-2019, 11:22 AM
 
8,196 posts, read 2,841,675 times
Reputation: 4478
Quote:
Originally Posted by branDcalf View Post
And the Repubs who aren't vocal against this sham of impeachment are also guilty of lining their pockets and fear, or know, they will eventually be exposed.
Exactly.
 
Old 10-06-2019, 11:46 AM
 
Location: DFW
40,952 posts, read 49,155,879 times
Reputation: 54995
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBMorgan View Post
Ten counts of obstruction by Trump - what's your comment about that?
It's BS and they've even given up trying to charge him with that.

Thus this new push for a reason to Impeach. The last 15 have failed.
 
Old 10-06-2019, 11:47 AM
 
8,494 posts, read 3,335,020 times
Reputation: 6991
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Have all the information?

Oh, but no.

Still don't even have the full version of Trump's call with the Ukraine President. Have not seen what other calls are hidden on that code word secret server.

Then there are the documents to be obtained and reviewed, as well as the testimony from those who are refusing to sit with the committees and answer questions.

Lot more information to be gathered and analyzed before a decision is made to refer this all to the House Judiciary Committee for review and possible articles of impeachment.

Who knows, these inquiries may find there are perfectly good explanations for all of it
There are per my count (correct me if wrong) three ellipses on that transcript. They occur only when Crowdstrike or the Bidens are under discussion. That could be legitimate. Even Trump when it came to asking for the favor[s] (the first and the "other thing") may have felt awkward then "lost" energy with his voice trailing off.
 
Old 10-06-2019, 11:48 AM
 
19,573 posts, read 8,513,185 times
Reputation: 10096
Turn out the lights. The party is over.
Mitch McConnell vows to squash Trump impeachment push

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vows to stop any Democratic push for impeachment in a social media campaign ad that he’s using as a platform to raise campaign funds off the inquiry of President Donald Trump.

In the brief Facebook video, McConnell makes it clear that the Republican-controlled Senate with him in charge will be a firewall against efforts to remove Trump from office.

“All of you know your Constitution,” McConnell says in the video. “The way that impeachment stops is with a Senate majority with me as majority leader.”

Of course none of us know with detailed certainty what will happen next with this. But it seems increasingly unlikely that Senator McConnell will ever need to actually confront this problem, as the Democrats would have to vote on it first.

Even if the Democrats were to vote in the whole House on starting a formal impeachment investigation, it is not clear that this has the votes to pass. And even if that were to pass, there is even less confidence that the whole House would ultimately vote to impeach the president.

So in all probability, this issue is mostly just going to be relevant to him and the Senate for fundraising and campaigning purposes, and probably not anything more.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:53 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top