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Old 10-08-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Clearly what's going on now is a historic episode of a presidency collapsing in on itself, maybe even out-doing Watergate.

White House official told whistleblower Trump Ukraine call was 'frightening'
Somewhere, Nixon is rolling around holding his toes and laughing his butt off at the Orange Idiot.

 
Old 10-08-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
Trump believes it's real. He just tried to hire Trey Gowdy as an impeachment lawyer and got turned down.


"Mr. Benghazi" apparently thinks there's no hope for Donnie, and doesn't want his name connected with it.
Not surprising since Trump is an idiot and Gowdy is not.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 03:22 PM
 
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The White House has sent an eight page letter to Nancy Pelosi and the Dems informing them that it will not comply with the 'illegitimate and unconstitutional' impeachment inquiry.

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White House announces it will not comply with 'illegitimate and unconstitutional' impeachment inquiry

The White House outlined in a defiant eight-page letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and top Democrats on Tuesday why it will not participate in their “illegitimate and unconstitutional” impeachment inquiry, charging that the proceedings have run roughshod over congressional norms and the president's due-process rights.

Trump administration officials called the letter, which was written by White House counsel Pat Cipollone and obtained by Fox News, perhaps the most historic letter the White House has sent. The document tees up a head-on collision with Democrats in Congress, who have fired off a slew of subpoenas in recent days concerning the president's apparent efforts to get Ukraine to investigate political foe Joe Biden.

"President Trump and his administration reject your baseless, unconstitutional efforts to overturn the democratic process," the letter stated. "Your unprecedented actions have left the president with no choice. In order to fulfill his duties to the American people, the Constitution, the Executive Branch, and all future occupants of the Office of the Presidency, President Trump and his administration cannot participate in your partisan and unconstitutional inquiry under these circumstances."
So, the Dems have three apparent options now.
  1. They can hold a vote of the whole House on the question of whether to initiate a formal impeachment investigation into President Trump.
  2. They can pursue this through the courts, which will likely result in this being resolved by the Supreme Court.
  3. They can fold this nonsense up and retreat back to incendiary name calling as their core strategy for winning over the American electorate going into the 2020 election cycle.
Clearly, the White House is feeling pretty confident about the outcome, regardless of which option the Democrats select.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 03:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by bobbythegreat View Post
When the fact that an official inquiry is even taking place is disputed, proof is required. A vote authorizing that inquiry, as has been done every time there has been an official impeachment inquiry if the president would be that needed proof.

Without that proof you have a here said she said situation with mo proof one easy or the other ad to who is right to break the deadlock.

As to the white house cooperating, why would you think I wouldn't want that?
Trump won't cooperate regardless of vote or no vote. It's how he's wired. He'll continue to obstruct, deny, deflect, rant.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Clearly what's going on now is a historic episode of a presidency collapsing in on itself, maybe even out-doing Watergate.

White House official told whistleblower Trump Ukraine call was 'frightening'

You honestly believe what you posted?




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A White House official listening to President Donald Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukraine’s president described the call as “crazy” and “frightening” and was “visibly shaken,” according to notes taken by the intelligence official who filed a formal whistleblower complaint after speaking with the official, and others.

ABC News has learned that the two-page memo, written by the whistleblower a day after Trump’s call, suggests that at least one aide to the president feared that Trump’s own words in the call were damning. According to a rough transcript of the call released by the White House, Trump asked Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskiy to launch an investigation into a political opponent, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, and his son.
So, lets get this straight....the person you are quoting, was "Visibly Shaken"......


So, the person you are quoting, is talking as the 3rd person?





WOW....So this person was visibly shaken.....and they seen it in them self?
 
Old 10-08-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Not surprising since Trump is an idiot and Gowdy is not.



Are you not one of the staunch anti-Benghazi hearing....dolts? .......
 
Old 10-08-2019, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
Rudy Guliani will not testify before the House Intelligence Committee with regards to any "Impeachment investigation" until after the whole House votes to formally initiate such an exercise, which they clearly have not done yet.

Again, the whole House is going to have to vote to start a formal impeachment investigation - complete with all the due process provisions - or this exercise will not and should not be taken as anything other than the politically motivated witch hunt that it obviously is.


Do you think he will give the same answer to the Senate "invitation" to answer questions?
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:59 PM
 
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Trump won't cooperate regardless of vote or no vote. It's how he's wired. He'll continue to obstruct, deny, deflect, rant.
Then put it to the test by doing a vote. At that point, we can have a completely different conversation.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 04:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
You honestly believe what you posted?





So, lets get this straight....the person you are quoting, was "Visibly Shaken"......


So, the person you are quoting, is talking as the 3rd person?





WOW....So this person was visibly shaken.....and they seen it in them self?
The only reason that anyone should have been "visibly shaken" by the phone call based on what we know was in the phone call is if they were concerned about an investigation exposing something they did wrong. Perhaps that's the case. Maybe the person was Joe Biden himself, he seems "visibly shaken" every time someone mentions his dealings in the Ukraine.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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Then put it to the test by doing a vote. At that point, we can have a completely different conversation.
Nancy Pelosi is no fool. She knows that Trump will still stonewall Congress even if she puts it to a vote, so she won’t bother to endanger her Representatives in Republican leaning districts while handing Republicans in the House firepower and the ability to gum up proceedings that they don’t currently have.

I take issue with many of Pelosi’s policies, but she is a pro at what she does and, unlike the fools bumbling aimlessly around the White House, she is not likely to fall for such a transparent ploy and commit an unforced error
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