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Old 09-30-2019, 11:53 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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I hate to cut Barr any slack on this
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...l-with-ukraine
(PS Was going to post on the Trump phone call thread and it is closed)

But Trump is such a loose cannon you can believe this is something he didn’t tell Barr he did before he did it—
It was probably just spur of the moment and name-dropping for Trump
But Barr’s name in there several times to make Zelensky know that Trump was doing this “legally” with adding the AG into the mix

And then when Barr DID read the edited transcript w/the whistle blower’s report, he likely dropped a load and decided to cover it up pronto...
To keep himself out of the fire as much as anything
Barr is a liar and a conspirator from way back so he knew the trouble that phone call could be
And yet, some believe D. T. and those lying for him are doing just fine.
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Old 10-01-2019, 01:12 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Now Trump apparently is caught using the husband and wife legal (that is a kind word) team of Joe diGenova and Victoria Tensing who are also involved in this Ukraine blackmail scheme
Big conspiracy supporters and apparently working w/o any oversight of Trump’s aides, the DoS or DoJ to do Trump’s bidding...
Because almost no one knew they were doing this for Trump
Those people love to live on TV—and are about as ditzy as even Trump could hope for...
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:44 AM
 
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Schiff is misrepresenting the phone call right now on C-SPAN by "paraphrasing" what he "thinks" Trump was saying. Schiff is insane.
Dem's have a LOVE Crush on Schiff-for-Brains now....He is their GOD, watch them bow to him because he is going to try and get rid Trump. Dem's know Trump is AMAZING and will be re-elected so they have to hurry up and sling mud at him.
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Old 10-01-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Trying to prove a point....which you obviously missed...
No, I got your point. Reductio ad absurdum, but I got it. 1st hand knowledge is irrelevant at this point - the "transcript" released by the WH corroborates the claims made in the whistleblower report re: that conversation.



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I agreed with you in my comment....(the first sentence)...go back and read....
Yes, you agreed with me and then went on with some silly, irrelevant hypothetical about me and here we are. You drove the car, don't complain about the destination....
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Old 10-01-2019, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Probably because he didn't say anything.

There are typically lots of people listening in on WH calls.

And Pompeo is SOS ... why WOULDN'T he be in on this call w/ the newly electred president of Ukraine?
He would still be on the list if he was listening but that he stated he wasn't aware of the phone call. A SOS unannounced on a call with a foreign leader and your answer is there are lots of people listening, isn't the SOS an important enough position that deserves announcement. A SOS that advises on foreign policy wouldn't want to be noted on a call with a newly elected leader.


Why was it so troublesome for him that he had to lie about the fact that he participated,
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Old 10-01-2019, 06:43 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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He would still be on the list if he was listening but that he stated he wasn't aware of the phone call. A SOS unannounced on a call with a foreign leader and your answer is there are lots of people listening, isn't the SOS an important enough position that deserves announcement.


Why was it so troublesome for him that he had to lie about the fact that he participated,
Why, indeed?

Maybe not nefarious, but without question odd. Time will tell if it's more than odd, I suppose.
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Old 10-01-2019, 07:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I haven't read some of the latest posts, so forgive me if this is a duplicate. But the IG is sure 'nough backing the whistleblower's claims and says what Trump is saying about them being secondhand is false. Good for him! Enough of the lies, and we're talking to you too, Kevin McCarthy and Lindsey Graham.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/30/polit...int/index.html
This was an organized hit, from the deepstate in collusion with Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff.


Rule changes in August, as Schiff tweets out exactly what the spy is to have said.
Then 4 days before it went public, more changes to the whistle blower protections, too.
Then the complaint, reads like a legal brief and only Adam Schiff knows who this "person" is.
It is not a person. It is the collective deepstate establishment hold overs within the CIA. Career people that are there 25-30 years and can wait out this President and still be in control of the nation.
AXE the CIA! Truman even said he made a HUGE mistake, by creating it. IKE warned of the military industrial complex....
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Old 10-01-2019, 07:39 AM
 
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Digging up dirt on political opponents was not part of the treaty, its criminal matters.
What the hell are you talking about? First, you translate "investigate" as "dig up dirt" and now you pretend that his actual words were "dig up dirt"? Trump asked for a criminal investigation, not "dirt". And he doesn't need that stupid treaty, either. It would be 100% legal and proper even without the treaty.
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Old 10-01-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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Why would that be expected?

Still waiting for something that demonstrates the VP has the power to do this sort of thing on his own.....
He told a story that implied that he did.
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Old 10-01-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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And clearly legal.
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