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Old 09-27-2019, 11:20 PM
 
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Trumpism isn't Republicanism. The Republican party, at least the party of Reagan-Bush, is dead. It's now Dems vs. Trump.

The educated, wealthy Republicans went to the Dems, and the older working class white Dems went to Trump. There's been a total realignment. Remember when the Republicans were for the suburban upper class and the Dems were for the lunch bucket laborer crowd? For whatever reason, the latter seems to love the orange con artist from Manhattan.

Frankly it's age and education that determines affiliation these days.

 
Old 09-27-2019, 11:23 PM
 
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One only has to look at the facts.
A 2 year investigation, brought on by fake documentation
Um, in reality it's been a three day investigation, and the submitted documentation has essentially been confirmed by Trump itself. But carry on with your "facts" about how the investigation started two years before Dotard committed the crimes, apparently indicating amazing foresight on the part of Pelosi...
 
Old 09-28-2019, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Trumpism isn't Republicanism. The Republican party, at least the party of Reagan-Bush, is dead. It's now Dems vs. Trump.

The educated, wealthy Republicans went to the Dems, and the older working class white Dems went to Trump. There's been a total realignment. Remember when the Republicans were for the suburban upper class and the Dems were for the lunch bucket laborer crowd? For whatever reason, the latter seems to love the orange con artist from Manhattan.

Frankly it's age and education that determines affiliation these days.
The reasons are all those "lunch bucket" ideas the Dems have offered since the 2016 election. You remember, jobs, healthcare, infrastructure ....all the legislation they've brought forward since then. LMAO

or maybe the results on the "War on Poverty" they've been waging since the 1960's....how's that working out for ya? Successful?
 
Old 09-28-2019, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The reasons are all those "lunch bucket" ideas the Dems have offered since the 2016 election. You remember, jobs, healthcare, infrastructure ....all the legislation they've brought forward since then. LMAO

or maybe the results on the "War on Poverty" they've been waging since the 1960's....how's that working out for ya? Successful?
Lunch bucket? The Democrat Platform is:

Amnesty for ILLEGAL Aliens (Open Borders)
Free healthcare for ILLEGAL Aliens
Free college for ILLEGAL Aliens
Reparations for Blacks
Reparations for LGBT
Carbon TAX
Higher income taxes on Middle Income Earners
Higher taxes, fees, and surcharges on fossil fuels
Green New Deal

That's lunch bucket? Nobody wants that lunch, ever.
 
Old 09-28-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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...if it makes them that much money....and president....hell yeah! LOL
 
Old 09-28-2019, 08:24 AM
 
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once they find out there is no crime, nobody will support impeachment


and even if libs try to impeach, Trump is not going anywhere. Last time I checked Bill Clinton was impeached, and walked right back into office and finished the rest of his term

Only 2 presidents have ever been impeached in the House, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. Neither was convicted in the Senate or removed from office. To be removed from office, the Senate must convict the President with at least a 2/3 majority. Currently the republicans hold a majority in the Senate.

This is just a show for liberals to get them riled up so they'll send money and get them riled up for the election.

IF Trump is impeached in the House, AND subsequently convicted in the Senate and removed from office, a sudden change in leadership could negatively impact the markets. Do we, the middle class who is investing for our retirement really want to go there?
 
Old 09-28-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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First it was RussiaRussiaRussia
Then it was RacistRacistRacist
Now (well this week, yet again) it's ImpeachImpeachImpeach

Do Democrats (and the MSM) have any clue just how childish and frankly stupid they look to the average, moderate voter? How dumb they look when time after time they make up charges, throw mud...only to have the charges vaporize into...nothing? To be proven wrong and ineffectual time after time after time? To have it revealed that everything they accuse conservatives of-are documented things that they in fact have actually done?

Do they never get tired of looking like losers (well, sore losers)? Of being wrong? Of generating contempt for themselves? Of being seen as terrible two year olds throwing a temper tantrum? Is this all just the last gasp of a failed party crashing into rubble-before the final reform into the American Communist party?
Maybe they are trying to break the world record of losing At least that may be a win
 
Old 09-28-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: USA
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Neither party will ever die. Both parties owned by corporate America. They exist to divide the bottom 99.9% against itself so that they cannot challenge corporate rule.

American politics is nothing more than entertainment. It’s a WWE match to distract and divide. And if this forum is any indication, it’s working perfectly.
 
Old 09-28-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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Lunch bucket? The Democrat Platform is:

Amnesty for ILLEGAL Aliens (Open Borders)
Free healthcare for ILLEGAL Aliens
Free college for ILLEGAL Aliens
Reparations for Blacks
Reparations for LGBT
Carbon TAX
Higher income taxes on Middle Income Earners
Higher taxes, fees, and surcharges on fossil fuels
Green New Deal

That's lunch bucket? Nobody wants that lunch, ever.
This^ The democratic party has abandoned the middle class working American.
 
Old 09-28-2019, 09:38 AM
 
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Only 2 presidents have ever been impeached in the House, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. Neither was convicted in the Senate or removed from office. To be removed from office, the Senate must convict the President with at least a 2/3 majority. Currently the republicans hold a majority in the Senate.

This is just a show for liberals to get them riled up so they'll send money and get them riled up for the election.

IF Trump is impeached in the House, AND subsequently convicted in the Senate and removed from office, a sudden change in leadership could negatively impact the markets. Do we, the middle class who is investing for our retirement really want to go there?
The hell with the markets...……. do you want Pence?
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