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Old 10-08-2019, 03:42 PM
 
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So you have no answer. There is zero legitimate reason Trump should be blocking the diplomat's testimony if he didn't do anything wrong.

No, I did answer, because you don't like my answer, is not my problem.
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:55 PM
 
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That's all made up. Totally false.
And so is the idea that anyone has a soul...
You can’t prove it
Ergo it isn’t real
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:55 PM
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In normal circumstances, the order seems illogical since the diplomat is a DT cronie and is likely to give favorable testimony. DT is going for broke on the cover-up, lending further credence to the whistle-blower's report.
Or he's poking the bear and daring Pelosi to have a house vote on impeachment.

The White House has been crystal clear that they won't cooperate with this faux "impeachment inquiry" until a formal impeachment inquiry is voted on by the House as has been the precedent in the last two impeachments.

Democrats are avoiding a House vote on impeachment because they are terrified of giving Republicans the ability to subpoena witnesses knowing that all the ugly details about Ukraine/DNC collusion in the 2016 election as well as the shady Ukraine deals involving the Bidens will be part of the whole public spectacle. With a nearly completely complicit mainstream media working on their behalf 24/7, Democrats can cover up and keep from the public their actual foreign collusion and election interference while continue to project those crimes onto Trump
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Old 10-08-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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Answer us this, Trump supporters. If Trump isn't hiding anything, why is he blocking the diplomat's testimony?
Trump sheep trolls if you say Trump is 150% not guilty demand him to let the investigation play out a innocent man does not obstruction and keep claiming it is a witch hunt, they just keep quit. The more Trump obstructs and the more he opens his mount the more guilty he is. Obstructing gives Trump a extra 3 to 4 months in office if he lets it play out he just me out before the end of the year.
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Or he's poking the bear and daring Pelosi to have a house vote on impeachment.

The White House has been crystal clear that they won't cooperate with this faux "impeachment inquiry" until a formal impeachment inquiry is voted on by the House as has been the precedent in the last two impeachments.

Democrats are avoiding a House vote on impeachment because they are terrified of giving Republicans the ability to subpoena witnesses knowing that all the ugly details about Ukraine/DNC collusion in the 2016 election as well as the shady Ukraine deals involving the Bidens will be part of the whole public spectacle. With a nearly completely complicit mainstream media working on their behalf 24/7, Democrats can cover up and keep from the public their actual foreign collusion and election interference while continue to project those crimes onto Trump
We all know what the republicans are going to do if this moves along, they will drag out dead conspiracy theories. They have already saw them in action when they had the house with the likes of Nunes, they will get there at some point if this moves forward. The republicans are the last that should be arguing about precedent after the Garland non-vote, rules don't matter anymore.


The worst thing about this isn't just that Trump asked them for favors, its holding up funds from a country at war for purely political favors. Russia must be celebrating, it appears they will get the eastern Ukraine with our help.
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:46 PM
 
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Or he's poking the bear and daring Pelosi to have a house vote on impeachment.

The White House has been crystal clear that they won't cooperate with this faux "impeachment inquiry" until a formal impeachment inquiry is voted on by the House as has been the precedent in the last two impeachments.

Democrats are avoiding a House vote on impeachment because they are terrified of giving Republicans the ability to subpoena witnesses knowing that all the ugly details about Ukraine/DNC collusion in the 2016 election as well as the shady Ukraine deals involving the Bidens will be part of the whole public spectacle. With a nearly completely complicit mainstream media working on their behalf 24/7, Democrats can cover up and keep from the public their actual foreign collusion and election interference while continue to project those crimes onto Trump
Nah, they just know Trump won't cooperate no matter what. So they're going along their merrily Constitutionally-mandated way.
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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Or he's poking the bear and daring Pelosi to have a house vote on impeachment.

The White House has been crystal clear that they won't cooperate with this faux "impeachment inquiry" until a formal impeachment inquiry is voted on by the House as has been the precedent in the last two impeachments.

Democrats are avoiding a House vote on impeachment because they are terrified of giving Republicans the ability to subpoena witnesses knowing that all the ugly details about Ukraine/DNC collusion in the 2016 election as well as the shady Ukraine deals involving the Bidens will be part of the whole public spectacle. With a nearly completely complicit mainstream media working on their behalf 24/7, Democrats can cover up and keep from the public their actual foreign collusion and election interference while continue to project those crimes onto Trump
You do realize that Republicans controlled the House from 2016 through 2018 and still control the Senate, yet have failed to subpoena any “ugly witnesses” with respect to Biden/Ukraine, right? They have been able to issue these subpoenas to this very day, yet have failed to do so. Does your claim that Pelosi is worried they might subpoena someone to investigate Biden-Ukraine make any sense, given those facts?
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The Trump administration directed a top American diplomat involved in its pressure campaign on Ukraine not to appear Tuesday morning for a scheduled interview in the House’s impeachment inquiry. For a man with nothing to hide, Trump sure acts like he does.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/u...e-impeach.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...gress-n1063636

Sure seems like witness tampering to me.
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:58 PM
 
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You are like a dog chasing its tail. It's an official impeachment inquiry because the Speaker of the House, who has the power vested to her per the Constitution, has declared it is an official impeachment inquiry. Nowhere in the Constitution does it state she has to hold a vote first. NOWHERE.
You are absolutely correct. The problem is, how is it enforced? Ultimately the only way to enforce Executive non-compliance with a congressional investigation is impeachment. As long as Trump has the votes in the Senate to acquit him, he can continue to thumb his nose at Pelosi without consequence.
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Old 10-08-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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Sure seems like witness tampering to me.

Only if you hate trump.....
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