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Old 10-15-2019, 08:28 AM
 
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The child in the house told the family's attorney that he could hear shouting but couldn't make out what was being said. Probably the same for her, but not sure we will ever know that. In any case, he didn't identify himself as police whether she could have heard him or not.




That's what's so stupid, he should have shouted his presence at the front door or front yard.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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If you aim your gun at someone, shoot and kill them for no reason, yes. You should be locked away.


Just stop. Continually trying to defend this thug just makes you look really bad.
He made a workplace mistake, I do that and nobody even notices, he does that and he goes to prison for life???? Is there a wonder why we have so many unqualified people on the police force??? Who in their right mind would want to be a cop in todays society when they are under so much scrutiny when doing a thankless and dangerous job for little pay.. glad we have no many keyboard jockeys that would be too much of a coward to do this job being experts on what happened.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:42 AM
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He made a workplace mistake, I do that and nobody even notices, he does that and he goes to prison for life???? Is there a wonder why we have so many unqualified people on the police force??? Who in their right mind would want to be a cop in todays society when they are under so much scrutiny when doing a thankless and dangerous job for little pay.. glad we have no many keyboard jockeys that would be too much of a coward to do this job being experts on what happened.
Jon, I agree with you that there's no way I'd want to be a cop, where a mistake I made would kill someone. Just like I also wouldn't want to be a brain surgeon. No thanks.

I think this case comes as a perfect storm. It's a white cop, black innocent victim, coming on the heels of Amber Guyger in the same metropolis.

And the victims were completely and absolutely innocent. That adds.

I do believe it wasn't his intent to shoot - it was his intent to make her show her hands and go from there, and then he had a reflexive muscle clench and now she's dead.

And I'm curious who made the decision to approach a welfare check as you would a violent crime in process scene, even an active shooter scene, which is basically what they did.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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Its also been reported that the two officers that showed up 6 minutes later also had their guns drawn, which where I come from doesn't happen on a wellness check... perhaps the problem is the training the FW officers are getting...

Plus her gun was found near the window, in my house I don't leave a gun laying on the floor.. It's not possible she was holding the gun when he fired??? If true, his biggest mistake could be not identifying himself as an officer.. so many moving pieces here, but all of the experts here already have tried and sentenced this guy to life in prison.. smh
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:44 AM
 
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He made a workplace mistake, I do that and nobody even notices, he does that and he goes to prison for life????
It's not like he forgot to order staples for the office, he pulled his gun in a situation where it was not necessary, put his finger on the trigger, which is apparently a big no-no, and then proceeded to kill someone. And you think he should walk away and simply go on with life without any consequences for what amounted to a series of really stupid "mistakes."

Tell us, are you entrusted to carry a gun on your job? If so, how many of your workplace "mistakes" that leave people dead are simply brushed aside with, oh, well, killing innocent people comes with the job. Nothing to see here.

More likely your "mistakes" are of the, oops, I forgot to order staples, variety. And you're right, no one except the people who run out of staples care. Can you seriously not see the difference?
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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And I'm curious who made the decision to approach a welfare check as you would a violent crime in process scene, even an active shooter scene, which is basically what they did.
Exactly, another thing that hasn't been released.. Was there a reason they approached the house like there was a crime occurring rather than a wellness check???? What did dispatch actually say??? Had there been other recent break ins in that neighborhood??

But hey, we have people that have watched Criminal Minds so they surely know whats happened here..
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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He made a workplace mistake, I do that and nobody even notices, he does that and he goes to prison for life???? Is there a wonder why we have so many unqualified people on the police force??? Who in their right mind would want to be a cop in todays society when they are under so much scrutiny when doing a thankless and dangerous job for little pay.. glad we have no many keyboard jockeys that would be too much of a coward to do this job being experts on what happened.
Do your *workplace mistakes* involve murdering a person? When you're holding a gun, there is no room for error.

Why are you so invested in defending this guy who killed an innocent human being?

Would you be saying this if a cop killed your spouse, sister, or mother while she was sitting in her own home minding her business?
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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It's not like he forgot to order staples for the office, he pulled his gun in a situation where it was not necessary, put his finger on the trigger, which is apparently a big no-no, and then proceeded to kill someone. And you think he should walk away and simply go on with life without any consequences for what amounted to a series of really stupid "mistakes."

Tell us, are you entrusted to carry a gun on your job? If so, how many of your workplace "mistakes" that leave people dead are simply brushed aside with, oh, well, killing innocent people comes with the job. Nothing to see here.

More likely your "mistakes" are of the, oops, I forgot to order staples, variety. And you're right, no one except the people who run out of staples care. Can you seriously not see the difference?
So losing your career isn't a consequence?????

And people here can't see this is a LOT different than some guy killing someone while robbing a grocery store??? Luckily for this guy, the judicial system is smarter than the people here...
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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he pulled his gun in a situation where it was not necessary,
Not defending the officer as he clearly screwed up BIGTIME but how do you figure drawing his gun was not necessary? Being dispatched to a home at 2:30am for a welfare check and you find the front door open. Who knows what pay have been going on inside the home. Perhaps the cop might have walked in on someone who broke in and was raping or murdering the occupants. There is a whole lot of things that could have been going on here so to say drawing a gun was not necessary is a pretty ignorant statement to make.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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So losing your career isn't a consequence?????

And people here can't see this is a LOT different than some guy killing someone while robbing a grocery store??? Luckily for this guy, the judicial system is smarter than the people here...
He was reckless. If someone is driving recklessly and kills someone you love, do you think losing his career would be enough or would you want to see some prison time?
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