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Old 10-15-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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Uh huh. She was an intelligence officer when Bush and Obama were President. She was handpicked by Trump and worked closely with John Bolton. "Obama leftover" has the connotation of a political operative who worked closely with President Obama rather than an officer who stayed on to serve during the Obama presidency for a few months.
You asked a question... I just supplied the answer.

Few months... when it was Manafort that was with Trump for three months, many said they were one in the same and Trump was guilty because Manafort was guilty. Now - a few months, regarding Obama and Hill, isn't a big deal.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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There's still no underlying crime, sorry.
Yes, there is. Sorry. Not sorry. The admission came out of Trump's own mouth. But I know his supporters will refuse to see it. You're loyal, I'll give you that.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Congress absolutely has subpoena power to compel Rudy Giuliani to testify. This is settled law, per Supreme Court rulings. If Rudy doesn't comply he can be held in contempt. If that doesn't work, Congress has can fine him. If that doesn't work, Congress can send a sargeant-in-arms to arrest and detain him. Arrest and detain was also upheld by SCOTUS in the 1920's.


Exactly. The following article follows Congressional power in this respect. During the Teapot Dome scandal (Warren G. Harding was President then, for those of you in Rio Linda, as Rush likes to say), there were two Supreme Court decisions upholding contempt of congress citations.



https://constitutionproject.org/wp-c.../Chapter-3.pdf
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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If you want to believe up is down and black is white because it helps you sleep at night, that's ok with me. I know my factual points and arguments are not going to penetrate a tin foil hat, but I'm hopeful that any undecided or objectively thinking person reading this forum will take the time to read my posts and educate themselves.

The topic of this thread is Fiona Hill testifying that Trump ran an odious shadow foreign policy operation with non-governmental people to strong-arm a foreign leader to gin up fake dirt on a political opponent in hopes that he could later present that fake dirt to intentionally lie to the American people about his opponent's fitness for office. It was not only a despotic abuse of office, but sends a dangerous across the globe that we are neither an ally to be relied upon or trusted nor a leading Democratic nation to be emulated. Let's discuss that instead of nonsensical comparisons, shall we?
That wasn't her testimony. Not even close. If she had said anything like that it would have been leaked.


Not that it matters since it sounds like a mild version of what Hillary and her cronies did to Trump.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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You asked a question... I just supplied the answer.

Few months... when it was Manafort that was with Trump for three months, many said they were one in the same and Trump was guilty because Manafort was guilty. Now - a few months, regarding Obama and Hill, isn't a big deal.
A holdover intelligence agent working for a few months during at the start of the Obama administration, particularly when they are later installed a decade later by Trump and Bolton, is hardly equivalent to Trump's hand-chosen campaign manager but if you want to draw false equivalencies, I suppose you are welcome to do as you please.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Exactly. The following article follows Congressional power in this respect. During the Teapot Dome scandal (Warren G. Harding was President then, for those of you in Rio Linda, as Rush likes to say), there were two Supreme Court decisions upholding contempt of congress citations.

https://constitutionproject.org/wp-c.../Chapter-3.pdf
Legislative oversight and impeachment are different things with different rules.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:08 PM
 
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uh huh...Anyone can say anything and the Obama leftovers and resistance crew are a bunch of liars. Not a single one tells the truth and have been involved in illegal corruption themselves. This is mere #fakenews and straight up lies from a straight up liar.
She testified that Trump and Pompeo (who fired the UK Ambassador) are a "shadow government" and outside of "protocols", which must be the REAL Government .... run by WHO exactly?

Looks like some of them did not get the MEMO - Election 2016 made Donald Trump the President and he appointed Secretary Pompeo and liaisons to Ukraine.

The Leftovers from TeamObama don't like and do what they please .... until they get canned, or perhaps reassigned to Somalia.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:08 PM
 
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Is Schiff afraid of Americans hearing the truth instead of his leaked lies ?

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/statu...09944095105024
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:09 PM
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Bolton might testify. It will be hard for Trumpers to cast him as a Obama leftover. He saw it for what it was, a shakedown to discredit Biden on unfounded charges. A shakedown of a new ally who really needs American support.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:11 PM
 
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Is Schiff afraid of Americans hearing the truth instead of his leaked lies ?

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/statu...09944095105024
Yep, another Trump sycophant. Surprise, surprise.
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