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Old 10-16-2019, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The Japanese don't spend their money. They save and save and save it. It's ingrained into their culture.

The country is also growing older. There are fewer children born in Japan nowadays than in the past. When both of these things collide, it makes it much easier for a young woman who wants to stay home and raise children instead of working outside the home.

The Japanese culture always gives those women lots of family support and help in caring for the kids. The help goes both ways; as the parents age, they move in with their grown kids. And once the grand-kids are grown, the care the grandparents gave to them comes back when they're old and need care themselves.

With all the Japanese banks flush with savings that's earning interest, the money they saved more than makes up for the income a young working mother can make.

The savings is what brought on the Japanese stagflation. Japan hasn't ever had a recession like one of ours, but its economy stalled out after the initial spending splurge that followed the big surge of Japanese exports. Once the Japanese bought the foreign property they wanted, they quit spending.

A lot of working people also quit working because they no longer needed the jobs.

Encouraging the relatively few young mothers to raise large families is a good thing for the nation and for its economy in the long run. Trying to make the people willing to spend like Americans will be much harder.
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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The Japanese don't spend their money. They save and save and save it. It's ingrained into their culture.

The country is also growing older. There are fewer children born in Japan nowadays than in the past. When both of these things collide, it makes it much easier for a young woman who wants to stay home and raise children instead of working outside the home.

The Japanese culture always gives those women lots of family support and help in caring for the kids. The help goes both ways; as the parents age, they move in with their grown kids. And once the grand-kids are grown, the care the grandparents gave to them comes back when they're old and need care themselves.

With all the Japanese banks flush with savings that's earning interest, the money they saved more than makes up for the income a young working mother can make.

The savings is what brought on the Japanese stagflation. Japan hasn't ever had a recession like one of ours, but its economy stalled out after the initial spending splurge that followed the big surge of Japanese exports. Once the Japanese bought the foreign property they wanted, they quit spending.

A lot of working people also quit working because they no longer needed the jobs.

Encouraging the relatively few young mothers to raise large families is a good thing for the nation and for its economy in the long run. Trying to make the people willing to spend like Americans will be much harder.
There is a huge demographic problem in Japan. It seems every year life expectancy gets higher
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Old 10-16-2019, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Probably because Japanese housewives have a lot more power than American Christian housewives.

Fundamentalist traditional housewives in the US are expected to be meek and subservient to their men. The men are definitively the heads of the households, and women are expected to obey without question or else...
This is absurdly wrong. They aren't supposed to subservient, it's supposed to be a team. If you pick wisely, not just some random idiot that you're lusting over because 'omg, he's so cute", you will have a strong team where conversation and debate and compromise actually comes into play. I don't know who is teaching some of you (general "you") people about what it is to be a Christian, but that ain't it. I can only guess it's people who pick and choose passages to read and don't actually read the entire thing. The Bible doesn't look down on females, quite the opposite.
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Old 10-16-2019, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Good to see traditional family values still big in first world asia. The tax system benefits housewives, even ones with part time jobs, by not taxing them if they make below a million a year.

https://jpninfo.com/66836

https://twitter.com/BBCMarikoOi/stat...505192961?s=20
A million yen a year ($10,000)
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Old 10-16-2019, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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There is nothing wrong with being a housewife, especially if that is your choice.
I was a housewife stay at home Mom, while I raised my Son. It was actually way harder (but way more rewarding) than any paid outside job that I ever did. My Husband always worked, and had a good job, so we had a choice in the matter. Not everyone does.


I don't think women should feel forced or compelled to be a housewife though, it should be a choice. Some people would probably be miserable being one.
Everyone should follow their dream if they can. I didn’t want to work when my kids were little- but I like my career and we are a close family. Work or not, does not keep you from having a good loving family. Trying to lock me down would not be a good thing for anyone to attempt. To each his own and be happy. I think it’s worse for moms that want to stay home and can’t afford to.
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:51 PM
 
Location: London
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This is absurdly wrong. They aren't supposed to subservient, it's supposed to be a team. If you pick wisely, not just some random idiot that you're lusting over because 'omg, he's so cute", you will have a strong team where conversation and debate and compromise actually comes into play. I don't know who is teaching some of you (general "you") people about what it is to be a Christian, but that ain't it. I can only guess it's people who pick and choose passages to read and don't actually read the entire thing. The Bible doesn't look down on females, quite the opposite.
My husband comes from a deeply Christian family and told me this is what they taught in the churches he grew up in, and he's pretty insistent that the more fundamentalist ones are mostly like that. (Needless to say, he does not follow those teachings)

I was curious and googled it and found some really weird sites promoting things like spanking your wife in the name of God...but I probably just fell into the weird part of the internet. lol

However, I know mainstream Christians are not much different than non-religious in terms of attitudes towards marital relationships. I'm only talking about the really hardline sects.
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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There is a huge demographic problem in Japan. It seems every year life expectancy gets higher
In your eagerness to embrace the ideal of the Japanese nuclear family, you're probably forgotten that a lot of that demographic problem comes from fewer Japanese women wanting to get married.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/03/w...-marriage.html
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Old 10-17-2019, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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In your eagerness to embrace the ideal of the Japanese nuclear family, you're probably forgotten that a lot of that demographic problem comes from fewer Japanese women wanting to get married.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/03/w...-marriage.html
Yup. It remains to be seen if the Japanese single women will follow the American lead in becoming unmarried mothers.
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Old 10-17-2019, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Yup. It remains to be seen if the Japanese single women will follow the American lead in becoming unmarried mothers.
Highly unlikely.
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Old 10-17-2019, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Funny US society never acknowledged that in practice. For centuries traditional female roles were downplayed and seen as unimportant, inferior and women were even seen as evil. Traditional females did not rule the world, the government, the business world nor the household. Women, couldn't vote, own property, get a credit card............................

Prior to the mid-1800s, neither could most white men.

Black men would receive voting rights a few decades later, but it would still be another century before they would actually be able to use those voting rights.

Voting rights were originally restricted to those that paid property taxes, but it's hard to get poor men, the ones traditionally pressed into military service, to agree to fight your wars for you if they aren't allowed to own property and vote.

Since women were not needed to fight wars, securing voting rights took a little longer.
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