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Old 04-24-2008, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Willow Spring, North Carolina
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Most mothers with 4 kids on this planet don't have minivans and SUVs. It's your lifestyle, don't blame children.
Ok then. I don't think I did. But please do explain how on earth a family with 4 kids can get around as a family at the same in a car that holds only 5 people unless of course Dad is not around. And if thats the case.. thats ashame, but it should have been mentioned. If its not the case then I am very confused. I am also already done with this post.

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Old 04-24-2008, 10:40 AM
 
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Families with many children need vehicles that fit the requirements of that family. Often, it is not only the individuals children but, and this is common today, their participation in activities of their children and sharing "duties" with other families such as transportation of not only their children but others to activities such as soccer, little league, scouts and so on.
You mean in the U.S. .....not ALL countries live this way.

And even in the U.S. if you can't afford a big truck or van you shouldn't have one....and many don't.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:51 AM
 
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THE END OF SUBURBIA
Oil Depletion and the Collapse of The American Dream.
"We're literally stuck up a cul-de-sac in a cement SUV without a fill-up" - James Howard Kunstler

99.5% of Americans don't know nothing about the petroleum industry, or their government, but they are good sheep, i mean good consumers and good voters.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:58 AM
 
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THE END OF SUBURBIA
Oil Depletion and the Collapse of The American Dream.
"We're literally stuck up a cul-de-sac in a cement SUV without a fill-up" - James Howard Kunstler

99.5% of Americans don't know nothing about the petroleum industry, or their government, but they are good sheep, i mean good consumers and good voters.
Interesting film......I'll have to rent it.

So, Americans are good little sheeple? That know nothing of their own government much less the petroleum industry? Unlike who...the French?

There may be some truth to the 'sheeple' argument, but at least we don't have racial/religious riots in our streets on a regular basis. Anyways, the American public is waking up....look at how people are more involved in this election.

Last edited by camping!; 04-24-2008 at 10:59 AM.. Reason: spelling
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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If we Americans were more foresighted, we would have raised the gas tax modestly back when gas was near $1/gal (say 30-40 cents per gallon) and invested in quality mass transit. This would have decreased the demand for gasoline, resulting in a lower price today. Additionally, it would have decreased traffic congestion so that those who continued to drive would have benefitted from lower prices and less traffic.

Of course, we didn't do this because cheap gas is a God-given right, or something like that.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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That's true. She just happens to have a lifestyle that involves being involved with her kids and taking them places.
My parents always had small cars for my brother and me, and he had a wheelchair too. I understand if you have 4 kids, you need something bigger. But I see so many people with one or two babies who think they require a V-8 SUV. I drive a Prius and it has plenty of room for two baby seats, two adults, a double stroller, and diaper bags.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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There only has to be a perceived shortage of any commodity to driver the prices up and make the speculators richer until the prices bring the smaller investors into the game. Then the speculators dump the futures onto the little guys and take out the profit before the prices drop to a sustainable level.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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People might as will learn how to make a killing in the oil futures market to pay for the high cost of gasoline. Boone Pickens made 1 and a half billion dollars doing it in 2006 and gave some of it to Oklahoma State to finish the west side of its stadium and for a new athletic village.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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You mean in the U.S. .....not ALL countries live this way.

And even in the U.S. if you can't afford a big truck or van you shouldn't have one....and many don't.
Yes - the United States.

"Big truck"? What are you talking about? Pickups and a majority of SUV's are not "Big Trucks"!
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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My parents always had small cars for my brother and me, and he had a wheelchair too. I understand if you have 4 kids, you need something bigger. But I see so many people with one or two babies who think they require a V-8 SUV. I drive a Prius and it has plenty of room for two baby seats, two adults, a double stroller, and diaper bags.
Let's see: I have been known to take my two Grandchildren to their soccer meets with several of their team mates - so, there is Grandpa, Grandma, two grandkids, and 3 team mates. Plus all their soccer gear and the Ice Chests for the game refreshments.

Please, put all of this in a Prius
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