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Old 04-23-2008, 03:45 PM
 
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When war is declared, Truth is the first casualty.

It seems the Pentagon and our wonderful government have been caught red handed. Don't think the media isn't a tool? Don't think you can get people to see heaven as hell and paradise as vile?

The link to the NY Times is contained within
Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand - CommonDreams.org

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Hidden behind that appearance of objectivity, though, is a Pentagon information apparatus that has used those analysts in a campaign to generate favorable news coverage of the administration’s wartime performance, an examination by The New York Times has found.
Records and interviews show how the Bush administration has used its control over access and information in an effort to transform the analysts into a kind of media Trojan horse - an instrument intended to shape terrorism coverage from inside the major TV and radio networks.

One can never lose a bet underestimating the American public.
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:03 PM
 
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I personally don't have any faith in the government telling us the truth about anything anymore...it is all carefully orchestrated and manipulated.
This if off topic, but another example of the lies we are told... or the truth we are not being told...


VA Hid Suicide Risk, Internal E-Mails Show, Follow-Up Reporting On Exclusive Investigation Reveals Officials Hid Numbers - CBS News
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:16 PM
 
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I personally don't have any faith in the government telling us the truth about anything anymore...it is all carefully orchestrated and manipulated.
This if off topic, but another example of the lies we are told... or the truth we are not being told...


VA Hid Suicide Risk, Internal E-Mails Show, Follow-Up Reporting On Exclusive Investigation Reveals Officials Hid Numbers - CBS News
I agree, the government doesnt even TRY to act innocent anymore. They tell us complete lies even tho we KNOW they are lying.

EX) We dont tortue POWs...
they still say this... does anyone think they are telling the truth? ANYONE?!
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:20 PM
 
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I think most people don't think they are being told the truth, but the interesting part is, why don't they demand to be told the truth? What does that say about us?
Better to live in denial than to deal with the truth?
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:31 PM
 
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So, if this was so effective why did the public support turn negative so fast? If you recall, many folks viewed the war efforts as a failure when Kerry was running for office, quite some time ago.
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:37 PM
 
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i believe the internet and foreign news, and smaller news sources had a lot to do with that. People get their news from all over now. not just the major networks.

If we listen to Bush and Co., I guess we can go on believing that everything is just dandy...
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:38 PM
 
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I think most people don't think they are being told the truth, but the interesting part is, why don't they demand to be told the truth? What does that say about us?
Better to live in denial than to deal with the truth?
Its kind of a messed up order that goes:

A) the majority of people dont give a crap about what happens to others, as long as its not happening to them

B) furthermore, the government only wrongs people who try to stand up for causes and get in the governments way

C) see A

D) the sooner everyone shuts up and lets the government do whatever they want, the sooner all the contraversy will stop


Read 1984 anyone?
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:39 PM
 
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Read 1984 anyone?

Actually yes, and also "a brave new world"
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:41 PM
 
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Havnt gotten the chance to read a brave new world yet

but 1984 scares the crap out of my. Its way too close to reality for my comfort.
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:43 PM
 
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here is an interesting book about the media after 9/11... I'll have to see if my library has it or can get it..

The Failures of Post-9/11 Media | MediaCulture | AlterNet
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