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Old 04-30-2008, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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They certainly are defenseless when accosted by the police...where the presumption is guilt not innocence.
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:12 PM
 
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I guess we don't know the full story behind these particular cases. I mean, everyone tells their story to put themselves in the best light, including me.

As for someone sleeping it off in their car, I agree with this post:



And again, we don't know the whole story.

As far as there are ads for lawyers willing to take on DUI cases on almost every alcohol page on the internet. I don't think those accused are defenseless.
Do you actually think it's acceptable to arrest someone because they might wake up and drive? Would you be okay if you were arrested for this reason? I looked it up and there's no special story, it happens.

I'm not talking just about lawyers defending clients, I'm speaking of protecting peoples civil rights in the whole process.

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Old 04-30-2008, 03:29 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Where did you look this up? All I know about this is the story posted here on this thread. I never heard of it being legal here in Colorado to do that. The DUI arrests that I have heard of have all been from people driving under the influence. That is why I say we need to hear the whole story. Perhaps you could post a link?
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:32 PM
 
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A person can have a bloodtest in place of the breathe test. He in fact can pay to have it in addition. But then a person is filmed once they are stopped in most states until the are put in a detaining call.I would have to say they are given every chnce to contest the officers contention that they are not intoxicated ;more so than other circumstances.Most staes it is public intoxication if they are drunlk behind the wheel if the engine is not running and the person is not on teh roadway.I mcertainly don't want persons drunk in a car wger they could indanger the public which is what pblic intoxication is all ablout.That is why in staes I am aware of it is against the law to serve a intoxicate dperson and the person is arestable for being intoxicated.
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:34 PM
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Public intoxication I have heard of.
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:39 PM
 
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Where did you look this up? All I know about this is the story posted here on this thread. I never heard of it being legal here in Colorado to do that. The DUI arrests that I have heard of have all been from people driving under the influence. That is why I say we need to hear the whole story. Perhaps you could post a link?
It's legal in Alabama, and other states want to follow suit. The excuse given is "it's better safe than sorry." Rather than define drunk driving as actually driving, you simply have to have control over a vehicle. If someone wants to sit in their car and list to the radio or sleep, they can be arrested for drunk driving.
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:57 PM
 
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Google "DUI while not driving" and literally hundreds of links will pop up.

This is the first link when I googled it.

New Jersey Upholds DUI for a Man in Parked Vehicle
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:13 PM
 
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MADD has hijacked the legal system when it comes to drinking and civil rights and no one cares because it's become this emotional and moral issue.
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:17 PM
 
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Maybe if your child were killed by a drunk driver you wouldn't think MADD was such a bad organization. They are trying to educate the citizens and lobby the legislatures so we can be ensured safer roads...sounds like pretty bad people to me!
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:24 PM
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Reading this New Jersey story, well, I just don't know. The truck was running. That's different than sleeping in a parked car. We also don't know how it ended. As I said, I just don't know what to think about it.
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