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Old 05-02-2008, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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Why do so many conservatives try so valiantly to form some sort of "link" between child molestation and homosexuality? Some of you people honestly sicken me to the core. I'm an openly-gay male who would NEVER consider hurting a child emotionally or physically in that sense for my own sick sense of "gain." Children are to be cherished and nurtured; not lusted over like sexual objects. I know this is off-topic, but since several people brought homosexuality into the fray I'm stepping in to defend myself and my fellow members of the LGBT community in our nation from constant bashing by neo-cons.

By the way, conservatives, care to explain to me just how "upstanding" many conservative politicians and public figures are? Spitzer? Foley? Craig? Haggard? Bush? Shall I continue?

 
Old 05-02-2008, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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By the way, conservatives, care to explain to me just how "upstanding" many conservative politicians and public figures are? Spitzer? Foley? Craig? Haggard? Bush? Shall I continue?
Bush is not a conservative. And you shouldn't lump him in with Crag or the others, anyway.
 
Old 05-02-2008, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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There is nothing wrong with being a liberal... as long as you don't steal from others... thats the one thing I don't agree with them on... that you have to steal from others and threaten them with imprisonment and worse if they don't go along with it...
Can you provide an example?


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Thats fine, as long as you don't steal from others... it was a hard time (a VERY hard time) to get it down to 5 years... liberals did NOT want it and generally opposed (thank god Bill Clinton did something good in office)... they wanted LIFETIME welfare to be available.. I don't agree with that, but liberals don't care what I agree on.. they only take to give to others... they do this for what? A bigger voter base... that is shameful...
This is painting with rather broad brush strokes, dontchathink?

I suppose Bush's BILLION dollar welfare program for wall street is fine with you?

Halliburton overcharging the tax payer by the millions, being found guilty of this abuse, and still getting new contracts from this administration is ok too?

I've watched this administration **** away TRILLIONS in tax payer money, my tax money, in Iraq, and BILLIONS more for their corporate pals. But it's those pesky liberals who want to take it and "give it to others"? Riiiiiight.

Corporate welfare drains the system much more than any welfare momma argument the right likes to throw around.

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I am very pro-environment... but only when it is back up with scientific evidence and not political agendas, media hype, and "investor" interests... Al Gore stands to make BILLIONS on his investment on fake science... its no wonder he is touring around promoting something he is going to make his heirs FOREVER rich... its NO accident...
What's the worst thing that can happen if he was wrong? Cleaner emissions? What's the worst that can happen if he is right and we ignore it via partisan non sense?

Gore donated ALL his Nobel Peace prize money to the Alliance For Climate Protection, which was 1.56 million. Gore also donated 100 percent of his earnings from his movie into the bipartisan campaign for awareness of global warming. You may have seen the ads on tv over the last couple of weeks.

He is not profiting from this.


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its easier to corrupt the corrupted..
Of course this administration has been absolutely free of any "corruption" over the last 7.5 years.

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I don't want ANY spying done.. I am opposed to the whole thing... it was Congress and LIBERALS that made it and passed it to the president... now that it was a big mistake, its a bigger problem to fix... thanks liberals (and republicans)...
Bush didn't want any spying done either, that's why he teamed up with Cheney and Rove to out their CIA agent Plame (and in the process, those associated with her.)

Or did you mean wiretapping?

Which kind of spying again?

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Marriage is one thing... TAX breaks... gays don't want just recognition to be married, they want tax breaks for being "married" and this will lead to people who "use" to be gay to get tax breaks only to divorce and marry a heterosexual... I think the biggest problem with government isn't that gays aren't allowed to marry, but with the lost revenue from fraudulent marriages..
Yes, single straight men will claim to be gay, just for a tax break.
 
Old 05-02-2008, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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By the way, conservatives, care to explain to me just how "upstanding" many conservative politicians and public figures are? Foley? Craig? Haggard?
Well lets just fess up and admit it. The Democrats have proven once again how fiscally irresponsible they are. How much did the Republicans spend for their various homosexual public restroom shenanigans over the last few years? Think it was 5500 a pop? Think again!

If they were smart they would really take advantage of this, highlighting their cost cutting measures at interstate men's restrooms across America.

Those crazy tax n spend Dems!
 
Old 05-03-2008, 12:35 AM
 
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Nothing wrong with being a Liberal, except that Liberals are often wrong. I agree with Daminos, use your own money to pay for your socialist programs...
Do you have any idea how arrogant this is? Liberals are only often wrong in your OPINION! I disagree with many conservative ideas, and IN MY OPINION they are often wrong. I've never met a liberal who would be that disrespectful.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 12:47 AM
 
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Marriage is one thing... TAX breaks... gays don't want just recognition to be married, they want tax breaks for being "married" and this will lead to people who "use" to be gay to get tax breaks only to divorce and marry a heterosexual... I think the biggest problem with government isn't that gays aren't allowed to marry, but with the lost revenue from fraudulent marriages..
ROTFL! That is so ridiculous! If people only get married for tax breaks there must be thousands of fraudulent marriages out there. Why aren't people getting married to anyone at 18 to get tax breaks then divorcing when they find someone they like for real. Why would a strait man marry another man for tax breaks and subject himself to homophobic attacks when the country is fllled with women to marry.

People don't get married for tax breaks. Would you marry just anyone for a tax break or did you wait until you found the right person?
 
Old 05-03-2008, 12:56 AM
 
Location: At my computador
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Do you have any idea how arrogant this is? Liberals are only often wrong in your OPINION! I disagree with many conservative ideas, and IN MY OPINION they are often wrong. I've never met a liberal who would be that disrespectful.
"Conservative" is not the oppostie of "liberal." Libertarian would be the opposite.

Liberals are always wrong because their belief system is based on a contradiction. They value equality. However, equality is the polar opposite of liberty.

Liberals claim that one's liberty can only be had by another's oppression. They're willing to use the force of government to impose their values on another, yet they believe they're doing something good. Liberals rob freedom... but claim it's good.

You claim you've "never met a liberal who would be that disrespectful." You would reach into my pocket, using the force of government to steal from me-- you'd steal my freedom-- and you think that's respectful?

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Old 05-03-2008, 01:37 AM
 
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"Conservative" is not the oppostie of "liberal." Libertarian would be the opposite.

Liberals are always wrong because they're belief system is based on a contradiction. They value equality. However, equality is the polar opposite of liberty.

Liberals claim that one's liberty can only be had by another's oppression. They're willing to use the force of government to impose their values on another, yet they believe they're doing something good. Liberals rob freedom... but claim it's good.

You claim you've "never met a liberal who would be that disrespectful." You would reach into my pocket, using the force of government to steal from me-- you'd steal my freedom-- and you think that's respectful?
My point was these ideas are OPINION and my disappointment that so many people present their opinions as facts. I haven't claimed affiliation with either side of this debate. I agree and disagree on different points, but it's all my opinion. I will not respond to any more posts by certain disrespectful people and I have had to disable my direct mail as some people think it's appropriate to take it beyond the forum and direct mail posters they disagree with.

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Old 05-03-2008, 07:57 AM
 
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Default I thought liberals were deep thinkers

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How clever, to not notice that the pages that were molested by Conservative Republicans, were under-age.
If that's how you want to deflect the question, it tells all about the liberal mindset.

Since liberals prefer to elevate perception over reality, try this one: The perception now is that liberals will go to any length to protect corrupted life at the expense of innocent life. Capice??

If you are able to explain your position on these matters, go ahead. If you can't explain cogently, proceed to amuse us with your boilerplate liberal talking points gleaned from one of those childishly hateful websites or blogposts.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: The Lakes Region
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What are you talking about. If you dial in any Conservatibe shoe, be it Rush, Hannity, etc, count the number of times they use the term 'liberal' in a sneering fashion. It's amazing hpw much they base their show on attacking 'liberals' like me!

Lies......Lies and more ...Lies...........it's just not the truth......Shame on you....

Carrie
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