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I really don't think Iraq is in a position to mount an attack, or even participate in an attack on Iran at this time. Heck, about all its militia threw down weapons and fled down in Basra a few weeks back. They can't/won't protect their own interests inside their own borders, much less outside.
So, no, there is no end in sight, at the present time.
Let's stop with the name calling please, just discuss the topic.
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Thanks, I needed that. As it is, TD couldn't/wouldn't answer my query anyway, so what's the use, eh? And, if you'll read back a little, surely you can see I WAS trying to get him back on topic.
By "loose" I meant to have them hit by terminally guided short-range ballistic missiles, burned and sank in the Persian Gulf. I think we should remove ourselves and let the entire area settle their differences amongst themselves. IMHO we do not have ANY friends in the area and that includes Israel. We may have client states and economic interests but we do not have friends.
Do you understand that your whole future is dependent on the US gaining control of Iran?
Understand I don't care if the US burns down, falls over and sinks into a swamp, but if you're going to live in the US, it's going to be a miserable existence for you and your children and grand-children, if the US can't gain control of Iran.
Iran already sells oil and natural gas to Japan in Yen instead of US Dollars which reduces the demand for US Dollars and weakens it against the Euro. China and Iran have reached an agreement to sell oil and natural gas in Yuan/Renmibi, and that will probably start June 1 and you'll see the US$ decline even further.
UNOCAL (now Chevron) owns 75% of the oil, natural gas and mineral rights in the Central Asian states. Those fields are being developed, but if the oil and natural gas is sold in Euros or Rubles instead of US$, it will be a serious blow to the US economy.
If the US cannot impose its hegemony on the Central Asian states, then it cannot control the currency in which those commodities are sold, and the only way the US can exert its hegemony is to control Iran.
And no one can say it doesn't matter, because it does. If it didn't, then Iraq would still be selling its oil in Euros, but it isn't because the US is forcing Iraq to sell its oil in US$.
When I was in the XVIIIth Airborne Corps, we trained to invade Iran, well not Iran, just a small province in Iran called Khuzestan. 80% of Iran's oil is located there and it represents 4% of the world's oil. The US will easily gain control of it. Those are Arab-Iranians who live there, not Persian-Iranians. On at least 12 occasions over the last 100 years they have tried to become independent from Iran, the last two times they tried were during the 1979 "revolution" and then again during the Iraq-Iran War. They would view the US as "liberators."
The great thing is that all of the oil and natural gas in Khuzestan goes into the Syrian-Iraqi pipeline, or the Kuwaiti-Saudi pipeline, or right to the port facilities on the Persian Gulf, except for one minor natural gas pipeline that goes through the foothills of the Zagros Mountains, so you don't have to worry about gasoline being $8/gallon, but you do have to worry about keeping your job if the US doesn't invade Iran.
Dick Cheney is that you again? this is my rebuttal to you since you quoted me. Anyone who thinks that our future depends on Iranian oil needs to put down the crack pipe. As for Iran selling it's oil in Euros well go thank Dubya and his policies for allowing our dollar to sink to the point where it's becoming as valuable as toilet paper around the world.
By "loose" I meant to have them hit by terminally guided short-range ballistic missiles, burned and sank in the Persian Gulf. I think we should remove ourselves and let the entire area settle their differences amongst themselves. IMHO we do not have ANY friends in the area and that includes Israel. We may have client states and economic interests but we do not have friends.
GO USA - great sentiment but go to where?
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Okay, I'm clear, now. But to practice isolationism with regard to the ME is a death knell waiting to strike. I think I'd rather have our presence in the region with both eyes wide open, and with the knowledge that if struck, we will strike back, but we won't strike first unless there is no other way to garner full and unwaivering attention.
GO USA, as in "Cheer your home team on to victory!" The USA doesn't have to go anywhere, "they" all want to come here! Be loud and be proud of who you are and where you are!
Bush can't get Congressional approval to buy paperclips. There will be no military strike on Iran.
He dont need approval for anything. He is the Dictator. "The Decider" What he says goes. He said so himself. Dont throw him the Constitution. He already said it is just a G-damn piece of paper anyway.
I dont like war but if bushy the Dictator wants to carry on his love affair with Iraq and illegally start up another war with Iran, then I would be rooting for a few misplaced nukes to fall on each and every major city in that 6th world hell hole. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. The world will be a better place.
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this is my rebuttal to you since you quoted me. Anyone who thinks that our future depends on Iranian oil needs to put down the crack pipe. As for Iran selling it's oil in Euros well go thank Dubya and his policies for allowing our dollar to sink to the point where it's becoming as valuable as toilet paper around the world.
