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Old 05-05-2008, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Are we going to bomb Iran? NO the Congress would not authorize such a mission.
The Congress does not have to authorize such a mission.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think we ought to just scare the **** out of the Iranians. Do a badass fly over of their capital to put them back in their place, start shooting their hostile boats, and get a battle ship armed with a nuke pointed right at them. It's called carrying a big stick.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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I think we ought to just scare the **** out of the Iranians. Do a badass fly over of their capital to put them back in their place, start shooting their hostile boats, and get a battle ship armed with a nuke pointed right at them. It's called carrying a big stick.
That would work on normal people who fear death. But they are not normal. They would sit there begging for our bombs to be jambed down their throats so they can hurry up and get to their 44 virgins.

We can try though. It's better then losing more Americans while the war monger bushy sits back in his easy chair laughing while keeping one eye on the oil stock charts.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Alvarado, TX
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Maybe you missed the news where the former head prosecutor at Gitmo just testified against the administration in a Gitmo trial.

And I am on topic. Are we going to bomb Iran? NO the Congress would not authorize such a mission.
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Yes, I guess I did miss that new news item. Got a link? And it's a "former head prosecutor"? Sorry, I don't watch tv, haven't since last July, can't trust 'em, ya know?

And, finally, yes, you ARE on topic! Yay! Congress doesn't have to give authorization. Especially in an emergency.

GO USA!
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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If they're secret what makes you so sure they're no longer there
Contrary to popular belief, some citizens often stay one step of the government.

A family member, staunch capitalist, was selected as deputy treasurer of a former communist bloc country while lying on his application saying he was a loyal party member. During his tenure he was able to gain some good inside information to share with political dissenters.

Now THAT'S patriotism. God bless him.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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As a U.S. tax-payer who has absolutely no say whatsoever, (see IRS) i have to vehemently disagree with any action or plan for war with Iran.

We shouldn't even be meddling in those type of affairs. Also, the stupid rhetoric of U.S. gov't of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" needs to quit and quite frankly, it's what got the U.S. gov't in the mess in the first place.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Alvarado, TX
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That would work on normal people who fear death. But they are not normal. They would sit there begging for our bombs to be jambed down their throats so they can hurry up and get to their 44 virgins.

We can try though. It's better then losing more Americans while the war monger bushy sits back in his easy chair laughing while keeping one eye on the oil stock charts.
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Would you kindly give your own definition of "war monger" or "warmonger"? And why have you so designated Bush as a "war monger" when his predecessor did nothing other than saber rattling, talking the big talk, but not walking the walk? For Slick, I'd say he was a coward, plain, pure, and simple. Well, thinking about what I just wrote, I suppose I can see, and have answered my own question to you, but I'd still like to read your side, please?

GO USA!
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Yes, I guess I did miss that new news item. Got a link? And it's a "former head prosecutor"? Sorry, I don't watch tv, haven't since last July, can't trust 'em, ya know?

And, finally, yes, you ARE on topic! Yay! Congress doesn't have to give authorization. Especially in an emergency.

GO USA!
Ex-Gitmo prosecutor alleges politics - Yahoo! News (broken link)

I agree Congress has already authorized All Presidents to retaliate or defend the country against imminent attack. No such condition exists. "Emergency" is a vague word which isn't used in the language of such authorizations. Iran claiming that they plan to develop a nuclear weapon is not a threat of imminent attack and really not even an emergency. It really more of an empty threat.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Alvarado, TX
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Ex-Gitmo prosecutor alleges politics - Yahoo! News (broken link)

I agree Congress has already authorized All Presidents to retaliate or defend the country against imminent attack. No such condition exists. "Emergency" is a vague word which isn't used in the language of such authorizations. Iran claiming that they plan to develop a nuclear weapon is not a threat of imminent attack and really not even an emergency. It really more of an empty threat.
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Thanks for the link, and now I do remember seeing it. No proof, though, only allegations. Lot of difference.

I hope no such condition actually exists - imminent attack; however, on 9/10/01, the U.S. thought everything was hunky-dory, too, yes? Drop your guard, drop your opportunity for quick retaliation.

And who really knows what is going on in Iran, in Imanutjob's mind (sorry, can't remember his real name, only kinda phonetically at the moment) other than he, himself. And If he or his country continue to thwart the embargoes - real or imagined - about the nuclear development, well, is it saber-rattling or just an empty threat, as you write? I'd hope it's an empty threat, too, but just in case it's not...well, I hope you can get my drift?

GO USA!
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:25 PM
 
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Is it half-time yet? What did I miss? I heard Mr. Ranscome say that anybody who misbehaves in the stands is going to get detention, so better be careful...
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