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Start in at 39:35 to hear the real world evidence for IVM and HCQ, 120,000 patients with 12 or so deaths.
41:20 - First time govts have forbidden approved medicines..
Finally.......
The Cleveland Clinic study says vaccine does not benefit those who have recovered from Covid.
No vaccine needed for those who’ve had COVID-19, Cleveland Clinic study says
CLEVELAND (WJW) — The Cleveland Clinic recently studied the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccination among people who caught the virus and those who haven’t. The study finds that anyone who previously tested positive for a SARS-CoV-2 infection did not get additional benefits from the vaccine, which suggests the vaccines should be prioritized to people who haven’t gotten the infection.
The clinic says this research provides insight into how the immune system protects the body once a COVID-19 infection is confirmed.
During the study that was conducted on 52,238 employees in the Cleveland Clinic, the clinic says “not a single incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection was observed in previously infected participants with or without vaccination.” https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/no...ic-study-says/
That's not what your article states. It does not say that no vaccine is not needed for those who've had COVID-19
From your article:
The Cleveland Clinic tells FOX 8, “We don’t know how long the immune system will protect against reinfection or protect against variants. We still recommend those eligible receive the vaccine.”
Did you miss that part? They still recommend you get the vaccine regardless of their findings because they do not know how long the immune system will protect against reinfection and variants.
It's phenomenal how you put your spin on the article and come up with your own conclusions.
It probably will disappear if Medscape sees the page being shared too much, or the comments become too numerous. I'm surprised it exists at all.
It's such an incredible combination of hubris and ignorance that they adopt a 'one size fits all' policy about vaccines. The staggering diversity of the human population---each person has different health conditions, genetic pre-dispositions, chemical sensitivities, allergies, vulnerabilities, medications they are taking etc.---so many different scenarios, and combinations of scenarios, for which we don't know how these vaccines will interact. And the bodies of hundreds of millions of people manufacturing a spike protein...this is a new thing. What hubris to think it won't have countless unforeseen problems---short-term, long-term, and fatal.
And yet they persist with this bullish insistence that everyone must take this shot...
I wrote about Medscape several weeks ago when posters were saying they couldn't find any negative reactions regarding the vaccine online. I was really surprised I found them on Medscape. Some in my area are having graduation parties this month, but some of my vaccinated friends are hesitant to attend. i guess they are still afraid of getting covid, even if the risk is less for the vaccinated.
The comment of tremors being caused by the vaccine was a point I was making regarding your comparing your friend's fatigue as being caused by Covid. No one knows for sure about either.
Yes we do know for sure because COVID-19 fatigue is different than fatigue from the daily stresses of life. COVID-19 fatigue is that feeling of being wiped out, physically drained all the time with absolutely no energy for long periods of time. Viruses do this. Not just feeling stressed one day, or daily living. The difference between what you described and what my friend experienced is that it's backed by dozens of studies, repeatedly observed thousands upon thousands of times while your example has never been repeated in any type of study.
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The symptoms in the studies you are citing are subjective symptoms, not objective symptoms.
Subjective symptoms are those reported by the patient.
They cannot be medically proven.
So let me get this straight. You don't accept the highest form of evidence which is a systematic review of over 200 studies showing the same thing but you have no problem accepting your friend telling you he got tremors after the vaccine?
That's not what your article states. It does not say that no vaccine is not needed for those who've had COVID-19
From your article:
The Cleveland Clinic tells FOX 8, “We don’t know how long the immune system will protect against reinfection or protect against variants. We still recommend those eligible receive the vaccine.”
Did you miss that part? They still recommend you get the vaccine regardless of their findings because they do not know how long the immune system will protect against reinfection and variants.
It's phenomenal how you put your spin on the article and come up with your own conclusions.
Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination.
That's a pretty clear statement on whether the vax is necessary to people who've already had covid.
The highly transmissible Delta variant of the coronavirus is quickly spreading throughout the United States, the Biden administration said on Tuesday in a renewed effort to persuade Americans to get vaccinated.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, told reporters that the Delta strain, first identified in India, now accounts for about 6% of new infections in the U.S.
This is irritating. Pfizer's phase 3 trials showed that being vaccinated if previously infected added no additional protection. The CDC was asked (by a member of Congress) to change the language but never did.
Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination.
That's a pretty clear statement on whether the vax is necessary to people who've already had covid.
Ok then why do they still make the recommendation to get the vaccine? Unlikely benefit does not equal do not take the vaccine. Nowhere in the study does it say NOT to take the vaccine.
Ok then why do they still make the recommendation to get the vaccine? Unlikely benefit does not equal do not take the vaccine. Nowhere in the study does it say NOT to take the vaccine.
Because they're idiots and apparently sheep who don't want to go against the grain.
Get yourself some critical thinking skills - if the vaccine shows no additional benefit, why would you take it? Because you got in line with all the other lemmings?
Because they're idiots and apparently sheep who don't want to go against the grain.
Get yourself some critical thinking skills - if the vaccine shows no additional benefit, why would you take it? Because you got in line with all the other lemmings?
So if you got Covid in June of last year you shouldn't get vaccinated because you have had it, even if your antibody levels drop? Use some critical thinking, in the absence of an antibody test the vaccine can extend your immunity.
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