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Old 12-18-2020, 12:26 AM
 
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Old 03-20-2021, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default All About the Vaccines

The current covid vaccines are already useless against new variants of the virus. More variants are going to develop. As we have seen so far, vaccinations are not instantaneous in terms of distributing them to the population. It will take nearly 6 months just for this country to give everyone willing this current vaccine. We will then need to do this for every variant and a booster shot every year for each variant? That doesn't seem like something thats going to work or be feasible.

The only solutions to this virus are to do nothing and let it spread or to take the Aussie/Kiwi approach and lock down the country until no virus is present and keep the borders permanently shut down forever.

As long as people are allowed into this country from outside and there are covid variants spreading, this virus will never end. There will be endless masking, social distancing and testing requirements unless we admit that there is nothing we can do to ultimately stop it. Nature will run its course.
 
Old 03-20-2021, 07:35 AM
 
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Vaccinations Are Pointless ???

Before considering vaccine information on the Internet ---including information provided by anonymous posters on social media sites---check that the information comes from a credible source and is updated on a regular basis.

You may want to consider starting with our own CDC. Their vaccine and immunization web content is researched, written and approved by subject matter experts, including physicians, researchers, epidemiologists, and analysts. Content is based on peer-reviewed science. They offer other reliable and trustworthy sources and great food for thought for determining what knowledge to ingest regarding infectious disease details and vaccines etc.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/index.html

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/evalwebs.htm

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As you surf for vaccine information, consider guidance from these sources:

The Immunization Action Coalition suggests questions you should ask.

The National Network for Immunization Information (NNii) suggests questions to ask when evaluating information.

The University of California San Francisco’s Evaluating Health Information lists “Red Flags” every consumer needs to know.

The Medical Library Association translates medical jargon (Medspeak)into language everyone can understand.

While it’s a useful tool for researching health-related issues, the Internet does not replace a discussion with a healthcare professional.
Additionally the WHO has 20 recommended English language certified web sites that are excellent and informative and easy to understand.

https://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/i...ty_website/en/

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Old 03-20-2021, 08:02 AM
 
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This is just fearmongering. The death rate of the Spanish Flu (1918) is much, much higher than the current covid virus.
That is due to two reasons: first, over 30,000 American physicians were in the Army and secondly they had no modern medical devices. Had this happened back then, is speculation, however, previous pandemics in the US such as cholera and yellow fever literally wiped out large percentages of the population. The yellow fever pandemic of 1855 killed 20% of Norfolk's population; cholera in the 1830's literally wiped out 20% to 30% of entire populations in the US. In the late 1940's polio got worse and worse. 1950 is still remembered as the "summer without children" as a deadly form of polio swept through VA. It was not responded to fast enough and Wytheville VA was hit very hard with almost 200 cases and many deaths. One of my playmates died of it. The Governor failed to act fast enough. We can ignore this or not.

https://blueridgecountry.com/newssta...hout-children/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2394684/
 
Old 03-20-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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Put ... who funds the CDC in a search...oh and in Aug 2020 check out what the CDC admitted and published about CoVid19 deaths...check the VAERS data from CDC which is the injuries/deaths from CoVid19 vaccines..

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Old 03-20-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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There have been no deaths due to the COVID-19 vaccines. No causal links have been found. There are plenty of attention grabbing headlines, though, that have been thoroughly debunked.

Here is an international look after nearly 360 million vaccinations have been administered in more than 120 countries, according to Bloomberg's global vaccine tracker. That's about 9.25 million doses per day.

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-no-...ths/a-56458746

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Old 03-20-2021, 09:23 AM
 
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There have been no deaths due to the COVID-19 vaccines.
Or covid
 
Old 03-20-2021, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Put ... who funds the CDC in a search...oh and in Aug 2020 check out what the CDC admitted and published about CoVid19 deaths...check the VAERS data from CDC which is the injuries/deaths from CoVid19 vaccines..
VAERS reports are just that, reports. They are not confirmation that the vaccine caused the condition in the report.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

"A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine."
 
Old 03-20-2021, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Or covid
That's a real kick in the teeth to people who have lost loved ones to the disease.

If not COVID-19 deaths happened in 2020 why were there 15% more deaths than would have been expected? What caused them?
 
Old 03-20-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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That's a real kick in the teeth to people who have lost loved ones to the disease.

If not COVID-19 deaths happened in 2020 why were there 15% more deaths than would have been expected? What caused them?
I do think that people died from covid but I also think some died as a result of the restrictions. Homicides and suicides went up for example. Not all excess deaths were due to covid.
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