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Old 04-09-2021, 11:21 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Well, I know around here, we are an Amazon hub, (CVG airport) and they are always going to extremes to get applicants.
You don't need college, you don't need any experience and you get $15/hour and health insurance.
But you aren't going anywhere (promotion) because you have no degree and no business experience.
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Old 04-09-2021, 11:23 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Have you seen Amazon warehouse employee turn over rates? They are astronomical.


'Good jobs that pay well' generally do not have problems with employee turnover.
Have you see FF employee turnaround ? Almost twice that of Amazon and those people are making about $10/hour, no education needed, no skill needed and all they need to do is press that "burger" button on the cash register.
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Old 04-09-2021, 11:34 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Well it seems the person who started this push for a union was an Amazon worker...Jennifer Bates, who testified to Congress.

She wants more breaks and higher pay and that's why she and some friends started the push to form a union.
A 10 hour shift with a 1 hour break is not enough. She's also not happy that Amazon stopped the pandemic bonus of $2/hour extra in her paycheck because "Jeff Bezos is the richest man in the world".

Bates seems to think a union will get her higher pay, more breaks and other concessions. Is she not aware that unions have no teeth in right to work states ?


https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/17/tech/...tes/index.html
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Old 04-09-2021, 11:37 AM
 
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I wonder why they would vote against having a union? Don't unions protect workers, fight for better wages and offer extended medical coverage? What's the problem?
Like any other campaign, the corporation and non-union supporters will suggest that you can get all that and more without a union.

It's whoever sells the best.....
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Old 04-09-2021, 12:26 PM
 
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Lets just say Im a little suspicious of those voting results, Amazon is a HUGE company and has A LOT of influential power.
What is there to be suspicious about? A lot of people do not like unions.

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You don't need college, you don't need any experience and you get $15/hour and health insurance.
But you aren't going anywhere (promotion) because you have no degree and no business experience.
At Amazon, a person can get to supervisor of one of the warehouse areas, and maybe up to an ops manager, but it will end there without a degree. Plus it is more of a who you know type thing that puts you in the promotion ladder to get to those positions, as the number of people qualified is huge.
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Old 04-09-2021, 12:29 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Like any other campaign, the corporation and non-union supporters will suggest that you can get all that and more without a union.

It's whoever sells the best.....
In a right to work state though the union can't do anything and just collects dues.
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Old 04-09-2021, 01:22 PM
 
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High union dues that employees must pay like another tax. Archaic work rules. Only the lazy are protected to the detriment of good workers. Inefficiency and less productivity forcing companies to close or move operations elsewhere or overseas.

You're really uniformed and naive. Educate yourself or remain ignorant.
Ever been in a union? perhaps your the Naive one. I was in a union on the railroad and they literally saved some lives. The only archaic work rules were the ones the company had in place getting us killed. Educate yourself.
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Old 04-09-2021, 01:27 PM
 
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Ever been in a union? perhaps your the Naive one. I was in a union on the railroad and they literally saved some lives. The only archaic work rules were the ones the company had in place getting us killed. Educate yourself.
Where was OSHA ?
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Old 04-09-2021, 01:45 PM
 
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Where was OSHA ?
OSHA comes after the fact, and can offer guidance and deterrence in regards to safety.

However, plenty of employers love cutting corners, unions do provide protection in this regards, because not only part of a possible CBA, but also against retaliatory firing, or threatening atmosphere of such if reporting safety issues.
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Old 04-09-2021, 01:52 PM
 
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Where was OSHA ?
until recently OSHA was not involved. The railroads are under the FRA. There were a couple of very dangerous situations allowed by the railroads and the FRA simply ignored our unions protest until we threatened a national strike to modify our work rules. To put it simply the railroads in double main territory would NOT slow down trains on tracks adjacent to workers on the other track..........how would you like to be forced to work 4-6 feet from a freight train going 60MPH?
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