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Old 04-12-2021, 10:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner View Post
I never said he fired the gun at her.

All facts are true by definition.

If you are not a high horse person - good. I believe you. But many are and they virtue-signal on behalf of people like Floyd while doing all they can to stay as far as they can from people like Floyd.
Yet that lady in your post, was not pregnant. Facts matter..

 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:08 AM
 
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True. The difference here is that a "regular" person would become unresponsive immediately if injected with a large dose of fentanyl. However, Floyd combined it with Meth. This is common, to combine a depressant with an "upper." I believe that's called a "speedball," but could be wrong on the drug lingo. That keeps him awake but "rolling." If the meth wears off first, his respiratory effort starts to decline, which is what happened here.
Meth is a stimulant that can be mixed with an opioid, to create a speedball. A goofball, co-use of fentanyl and methamphetamine. With both cheap and available, the two drugs attributed to the largest number of OD deaths are meth and fentanyl.
 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:14 AM
 
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It makes no difference what Floyd did or did not do prior to this incident.

Chauvin did not die of as a result of a heart attack, an O.D., or even Covid.

He died as a direct result of the actions of Chauvin.

For those who don't believe their own eyes, they can rely on the testimony of the medical experts.


Chauvin was a police officer, sworn to serve and protect. He was not a judge or a jury, sworn to decide innocence/guilt, and pronounce or even carry out sentencing.

At the very least, Chavin should have begun CPR or allowed others to revive him once Floyd was unresponsive. Instead, he held him down for three more minutes to ensure his death.
Don't we wish the world was perfect? Including not abusing drugs, which led to paranoia, severe respiratory depression, cops were perfect robots who calls it right when dealing with someone who won't comply etc...

Maybe someday we all will be as perfect as you GotHereQuickAsICould :-) My point, no one knows what they would do when in someone else's situation. Stop allowing others to dictate what you think and thinking that you would respond perfectly.
 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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jojajn, as a "medical professional" you should know better.

When someone takes more drugs than their body can process, they overdose. An overdose may lead to seizures, which can cause drooling. They may also have a heart attack and pulmonary edema, where fluid leaks into the lungs, both of which are associated with frothing from the mouth.

Street names for fentanyl

- serial killer
- murder 8
And where did you obtain you medical degree? What medical specialty are you practicing now that gives you experience with Fentanyl overdose, Fentanyl administration, and the cardiopulmonary system?
 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:23 AM
 
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The Doctor on the stand now is just babbling on , waste of time as the outcomes going to be the same , plus the lawyer that’s questioning him has no idea what’s the doctors saying he’s just checking on his next question to ask , he’s paying no attention the what the docs saying, Lol what a joke .
 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:23 AM
 
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jojajn, as a respiratory therapist who worked in the ER and Medical ICU at a trauma center, we cared for a lot of OD's. Fentanyl is a significant respiratory depressant and poses a serious risk of fatal overdose. Fentanyl is at least 50 more concentrated than morphine.

As we "health care professionals" know and practice, when assessing a patient, politics never ever plays a part. Here is some reading on Fentanyl.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6474471/
As an anesthesiologist, we teach respiratory therapists airway management in clinical settings.

Thank you for that elementary review of Fentanyl. I am sure it is all new information for you.
 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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True. The difference here is that a "regular" person would become unresponsive immediately if injected with a large dose of fentanyl. However, Floyd combined it with Meth. This is common, to combine a depressant with an "upper." I believe that's called a "speedball," but could be wrong on the drug lingo. That keeps him awake but "rolling." If the meth wears off first, his respiratory effort starts to decline, which is what happened here.
Didn't John Belushi used cocaine and heroin in his speedball that killed him if i remember??
 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:42 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
It makes no difference what Floyd did or did not do prior to this incident.

Chauvin did not die of as a result of a heart attack, an O.D., or even Covid.

He died as a direct result of the actions of Chauvin.

For those who don't believe their own eyes, they can rely on the testimony of the medical experts.


Chauvin was a police officer, sworn to serve and protect. He was not a judge or a jury, sworn to decide innocence/guilt, and pronounce or even carry out sentencing.

At the very least, Chavin should have begun CPR or allowed others to revive him once Floyd was unresponsive. Instead, he held him down for three more minutes to ensure his death.
I agree.

The primary force was impeding Floyd to breath.

CPR is constantly being sidelined here by inserting this o.d narrative. None who chattle on about drugs,dare admit cpr was to be done, along with moving him from the prone position.
 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:46 AM
 
Location: FL
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The Doctor on the stand now is just babbling on , waste of time as the outcomes going to be the same , plus the lawyer that’s questioning him has no idea what’s the doctors saying he’s just checking on his next question to ask , he’s paying no attention the what the docs saying, Lol what a joke .
The doctor is doing a good job of explaining everything.
 
Old 04-12-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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Go to the source - the trial itself - and listen to the expert testimony.
It is no longer an assumption.

What is no longer an assumption? All the expert testimonies listened to so far were from those called by the prosecution. This week, the defense will be calling for their own medical experts to testify. There are two sides to what went down the day Floyd died.
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