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Old 04-11-2021, 05:04 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Vaccine passports/requirement to be vaccinated to attend an event or go into a business omit the 33 million people that have antibodies and are just as safe to be around. To me, that is a huge issue.
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Old 04-11-2021, 05:15 PM
 
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Vaccine passports/requirement to be vaccinated to attend an event or go into a business omit the 33 million people that have antibodies and are just as safe to be around. To me, that is a huge issue.
MSG, for example, does allow antibody testing to attend. They have rapid testing set up onsite.
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Old 04-11-2021, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Vaccine passports/requirement to be vaccinated to attend an event or go into a business omit the 33 million people that have antibodies and are just as safe to be around. To me, that is a huge issue.
Let me toss out one more variable in this discussion: https://www.businessinsider.com/pfiz...ariants-2021-4. I quote:

"Coronavirus variants first found in South Africa and the UK are able to partially "breakthrough" the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, according to an Israeli study that studied real-world infection data. The study has not yet been peer-reviewed."

So would a ban or restrictions then be limited to the particular vaccine you received? By the way, I have been fully vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine. I do presume that in the near future, Pfizer will come out with another booster for these new strains. Of course this could be a never ending quest to stay ahead of the virus.
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Old 04-11-2021, 06:57 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Allowing people who are not vaccinated to circulate freely among vaccinated people is a violation of the freedom of the vaccinated people to not be exposed to a potential deadly biological agent. This is foundation principle which justifies government to exist.
And forcing people who choose not to be vaccinated because they may have reason not to trust the government (or pharmaceutical companies) is also a violation of our freedom as American citizens. If you knew of all the unethical (and dangerous) human experiments in the U.S. over the past 150 years, you might not feel the way you do. I won't even list them all. You can google it for yourself. But here, I'll give you a head start.

https://www.google.com/search?client...+united+states
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Old 04-11-2021, 08:08 PM
 
Location: California
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I get it but you'll see, this is much ado about nothing.

Also, if a private business elects to do it, then they should have that freedom. There are plenty of places to go in this world to shop, eat, etc. Pick one that fits your needs. Same as with the masks. If you don't want to wear one, go to a business that doesn't care. If you insist on wearing one, make sure you don't shop in business that don't care. It's personal choice.

The only place a person should be worried if they don't want to vax is if a local government won't let you in to conduct essential business. Again, this virus would have to be far worse (such as something like Ebola) before that would ever happen. Heck, the military isn't even mandating vaccines for servicemembers.

But, I suppose this is a discussion board so if we want to get into these dire scenarios, why not?
Are private businesses funding the development of the vaccine passports though?
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Old 04-11-2021, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Are private businesses funding the development of the vaccine passports though?
Yep.

https://vci.org/

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Acoer
AdventHealth
aio Digital
Airside
Akinox Solutions Inc.
Allscripts
apisatscale.com A subsidiary of Sysman.com Inc.
Appian
Associated Planners of Georgia
Atter Pathology Services
Auna
Aviva Pharmacy
Ayodo Foundation
Azuba Corporation
b.well Connected Health
Beth Israel Lahey Health
Billon
Bluefield Health
Care Package Direct LLC
CareSpace
CARIN Alliance
Cerner
CERTIFY Global
Change Healthcare
CIO Strategy Council
Clarity Diagnostics
Cleared4
CodeREADr Inc.
Coropass
CourMed
COVID Immunity Project
Covidpedia Labs
CPSI
CuraPatient, Inc.
Daon
Digital ID Collaborative @ University of South Florida
Dimagi
Docket Health, Inc.
DrChrono EHR
ECP
Electronic Health Record Association
eLOOP SA
EMR Direct
Entrust
Epic
ESAC Inc.
Evernorth
Evernym
Execution L.L.C.
Flat Spell Technologies
FOLKS - Imunosafe
Gainwell Technologies
Garnet Healthcare
GenuChk
Get Real Health
Gnomon Informatics SA
GoInvo
Health Level Seven International (HL7)
Healthcare IT Leaders
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Hedera Hashgraph
HID Global
HIMSS (Healthcare Information and Management Systems Society, Inc.)
Hubbub World
Humetrix
HyperOffice
ibLaunch Company
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Ideando Inc
IdRamp
iHealth Paragon dba Healthy Mee
Imprivata
Intelligent Medical Objects
Internet of People - IoP Srl
IOTA Foundation
IPRD Solutions
IriTech, Inc.
Keyed Systems
Manceps
MaxMD
Mayo Clinic
mdCAREclik
MEDITECH
Megical
mHealthCoach
Microsoft
MITRE
myElth
MyMeds
MyVaxPass
NeXplain
NextGen Healthcare
OneRecord
Onyx Technology, LLC
Othena
Papirys Inc.
PathCheck Foundation
Patient Centric Solutions, Inc
PatientLink
Pharmapod Ltd.
Plan8
pocketcred.com
Point-of-Care Partners
PopcornApps
Proof Market
SAFE HEALTH
SafeWorld™️
Saggio Consulting, LLC
Sama
Scicom (MSC) Bhd
ShareMy.Health
Shoptaki
SITA
Skyflow
STChealth
Strategio Consultant
Tamarin Health
Taylor Corporation
TECH5 SA
Technical Writers of India (TWIN)
tested.me
The Commons Project Foundation
The Gekko Group
The Sequoia Project
Threedot
TranSendX
Unhackable
Unisys
University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB)
University of Chicago Medicine
V-Health Passport
Valid Entry
VaxAtlas, Inc.
VAXCheck
Veri Doc Global Pty Ltd
Verif-y
vlinder
WebShield Inc.
WellUp
Wymsical INC
XAFE.io
Xperterra
Zocdoc
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Old 04-12-2021, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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No and you know what??

The brainwashed masses cant see it,they have been programmed so they cannot think/see outside the box....
Bingo.
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Old 04-12-2021, 03:30 AM
 
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Bingo.
You also have to be able to admit you were wrong and adjust your thinking in order to see truth.

Some people simply can't do that. They would rather be wrong forever than admit they they were fooled.
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Old 04-12-2021, 06:16 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Are private businesses funding the development of the vaccine passports though?
The Biden administration already stated they are funding private groups to create passports for business to use.
The money comes from the stimulus bill...I think about $500 million in grants for it.
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Old 04-12-2021, 06:19 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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That is a working group and has nothing to do with funding.
They are setting standards if you read about their goal.
Our current digital health records need to be reworked so that vaccine data can easily be accessed.
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