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Old 04-11-2021, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Obama did nothing when Putin moved on Crimea and Georgia.

Trump approved the air strike that killed hundreds when the Russians made a move in Syria.

So now Putin is going to move on the Ukraine? Because he knows Biden will do nothing just like Obama did.
Bingo
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Old 04-11-2021, 11:30 PM
 
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Doesn't the Ukraine illegally occupy territories that belonged historically to Poland and Russia? Half of the population speaks Polish and half speaks Russian.

Isn't it like Taiwan that occupies Chinese and Japanese territories?
No, it is not. Language speaking has little to do with historically belonging; never heard of cultural cleansing?

Anyway, Ukraine does not ILLEGALLY occupy territories the belonged to other countries. It is that Putin wants to get back what belongs to Russia.
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Old 04-11-2021, 11:35 PM
 
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Obama did nothing when Putin moved on Crimea and Georgia.

Trump approved the air strike that killed hundreds when the Russians made a move in Syria.

So now Putin is going to move on the Ukraine? Because he knows Biden will do nothing just like Obama did.
yes, you are right. Putin saw how Biden dealing with Myanmar. Iran. N.K., China, Saudi Arabia and ISIS. He knows what to do.
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Old 04-11-2021, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Well, let's see what Biden is made of.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN2BV2Z3
Can Biden even find the Ukraine on a map?
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Old 04-11-2021, 11:53 PM
 
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Biden is a weak demented fool . All this issues in the world have all escalated after his puppet regime was installed . Joe lacks any cognitive or mental capabilities to handle any crisis in the world that would require rational strong leadership . It’s said to watch our so called powerful nation be lead by a demented fake potato president that cannot even read a teleprompter we are only 3 months in and the potato is a well documented failure
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Old 04-12-2021, 12:50 AM
 
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Until it is.

So we're not allowed to discuss it until then?
Did I say anywhere not to discuss?

I gave my opinion, that is all.

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I’ve been following this. The situation in Ukraine is not good. Russia should stay out of it. But, to be fair, the Western version of this story isn’t accurate. Eastern Ukraine doesn’t want to be part of Kiev anymore. Neither did the Crimea. They have been fighting and dying for years for independence. Russia has its own interest in helping them. But it isn’t a Russian invasion. Those people are begging for help.
The areas never wanted to be part of Ukraine since the end of the USSR. The current borders were drawn by Stalin for the purpose of the USSR, not for the purpose of the people living there. Furthermore, Kiev removed the semi-autonomous status of Crimea years ago, presumption of operating as such when voting to separate from the USSR.



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Doesn't the Ukraine illegally occupy territories that belonged historically to Poland and Russia? Half of the population speaks Polish and half speaks Russian.

Isn't it like Taiwan that occupies Chinese and Japanese territories?
No, Ukraine does not illegally occupy any territories. Half of Ukraine does not speak Polish, lol.


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Obama did nothing when Putin moved on Crimea and Georgia.

Trump approved the air strike that killed hundreds when the Russians made a move in Syria.

So now Putin is going to move on the Ukraine? Because he knows Biden will do nothing just like Obama did.
What you expect Obama to do? Invade Russia? Ukraine did not even do anything themselves, and it is a fact most people in Crimea want to be part of Russia, not Ukraine, sort of creates issues because the US backed Kosovo. Georgia though attacked Russia, so that is all on them when Russia retaliated.

Russians have been making thousands of moves in Syria, lol. For years, and beat back the terrorist insurgency. The US of course is illegally occupying Syria, and so is Turkey, and the US is sponsoring a terror organization there.
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Old 04-12-2021, 12:59 AM
 
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So now Putin is going to move on the Ukraine? Because he knows Biden will do nothing just like Obama did.
The main reason is Russian and Chinese soldiers are not Afghan barbarians that the Marines used to fight with.

They have really big guns like nuclear torpedoes that sail several miles deep around the globe and can destroy any aircraft carrier in seconds.
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Old 04-12-2021, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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This problem started on Obamas watch. The US state dept was neck deep in the coup that overthrew the elected government of Ukraine in 2013.
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Originally Posted by WK91 View Post
Obama did nothing when Putin moved on Crimea and Georgia.

Trump approved the air strike that killed hundreds when the Russians made a move in Syria.

So now Putin is going to move on the Ukraine? Because he knows Biden will do nothing just like Obama did.
Hillary Clinton was a better 'friend' to Russia than Donald Trump ever was. It was she who gave them the Uranium Deal, and as Sec of State did nothing when Russia invaded Ukraine.

In an interview with a Russian journalist in 2010, Hillary Clinton stated: "One of the fears that I hear from Russians is that somehow the United States wants Russia to be weak. That could not be farther from the truth. Our goal is to help strengthen Russia."

And Biden will also do nothing now - his strings are controlled by the Elite Puppeteers like Obama and Clinton!
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Old 04-12-2021, 04:19 AM
 
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Trump left the US military ill prepared for war. To get an agreement with North Korea war games with SK were canceled. That was extended world wide for the navy. Then, war games such as Defender-Europe 20 were almost eliminated in 2020 due to Covid. The Covid cases for the military are rolled into their state base figures to ensure our adversaries don't know where there are outbreaks.

On April 7, 2021 the GAO released its readiness report on the US military. From FY 2017 through FY 2019, U.S. military readiness increased in the ground domain and declined in the sea domain, while readiness ratings in the space, air, and cyber domains were mixed. Note that this is before 2020 when war games were almost eliminated.

Repairs on US ships are behind over 100 days for carriers, for subs over 200 days. The replacement program for the Arleigh Burkes was left in shambles; some of the ships are exceeding their hull life - 11 will be decommissioned by 2026 with the loss of over 1000 vertical launch tubes - and the Trump administration left no coherent plan for their replacement. Even Republicans agreed with the defense bill which said:

“Despite repeated delays to the [large surface combatant program], the Navy has reduced the acquisition profile for DDG-51 Flight III destroyers in recent budget submissions, and has not delineated a clear acquisition path for large surface combatants following the conclusion of the current DDG-51 Flight III destroyer multi-year procurement contract in fiscal year 2022...”

The Russians canceled war games in early 2020 due to Covid, then recovered. Last fall, they conducted war games off of Alaska, the largest since the fall of the USSR. In short, they are prepared and we are not.
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Old 04-12-2021, 05:26 AM
 
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Is not this sort of situation the job of NATO? No doubt Putin picked a time when the EU was preoccupied with the pandemic and other issues as a time to make a move.

But this is not Americas problem. I could care less about the Ukraine.
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