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Old 05-13-2008, 09:40 AM
j33
 
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...because when given the choice,people would rather NOT live on top of one another.
Correction. some people would rather not live on top of each other. I'm very happy in my two-flat with my upstairs neighbor (and no I'm not just out of college either).

 
Old 05-13-2008, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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In Washington we use our Metro system extensively. This high gas price environment is great for me. High gas prices with long suburban commutes drives up real estate values for those of us who live in the city. What housing bubble?
 
Old 05-13-2008, 09:49 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Correction. some people would rather not live on top of each other. I'm very happy in my two-flat with my upstairs neighbor (and no I'm not just out of college either).
Indeed, MANY retired folks are finding the conveniences of living "in city" are starting to outweigh the privacy advantages of living further out - and MANY cities (particularly out West) are finding their core areas booming. Here in Seattle there are so many condo towers rising up along First Avenue that it's starting to remind me a bit of my time in New York City. Across the lake in Bellevue, the entire downtown core is being completely transformed from a commerical district to a mixed commercial/residential one as condo tower after condo tower springs up seemingly overnight. The population booms taking place in many downtown cores is astonishing and will completely redefine the nature of living in those cities. Ubanization (rather than suburbanization) is clearly a rising trend.

Ken
 
Old 05-13-2008, 09:52 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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In Washington we use our Metro system extensively. This high gas price environment is great for me. High gas prices with long suburban commutes drives up real estate values for those of us who live in the city. What housing bubble?
You have a GREAT Metro system in the DC. I used it a bit back in 1991 when I was sent back East do do some work at Andrews (didn't use it to get Andrews of course, but rather to sitesee after work).

Ken
 
Old 05-13-2008, 09:53 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Correction. some people would rather not live on top of each other. I'm very happy in my two-flat with my upstairs neighbor (and no I'm not just out of college either).
If given the choice,this is your perfect home???
 
Old 05-13-2008, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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When I stop at a red light and I am next to a CAT bus, I look inside. At night it is all lit up inside and you can see the garbage that rides those buses.

What woman by herself would get on that bus? What man would for that matter? One can argue the stereotype that rides a bus all one wants but I know what I see and it is scary.

Back in the mid 70s there was a rash of bus driver slashings. Anyone remember that back in NYC? They caught the slasher but it continued. After half a dozen bus driver slashing incidents the oinkers learned it was copy cats. They ended up catching 3 slashers. They would just walk on a bus, after it started moving, they would slash their throats.

Us kids also used to take the subway to Shea Stadium a couple times a week during our summer vacation. In those days it was almost all day games. The things we saw during those subway rides I can write a book on it.

Mass transit is no place for normal people.
 
Old 05-13-2008, 10:01 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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When I stop at a red light and I am next to a CAT bus, I look inside. At night it is all lit up inside and you can see the garbage that rides those buses.

What woman by herself would get on that bus? What man would for that matter? One can argue the stereotype that rides a bus all one wants but I know what I see and it is scary.

Back in the mid 70s there was a rash of bus driver slashings. Anyone remember that back in NYC? They caught the slasher but it continued. After half a dozen bus driver slashing incidents the oinkers learned it was copy cats. They ended up catching 3 slashers. They would just walk on a bus, after it started moving, they would slash their throats.

Us kids also used to take the subway to Shea Stadium a couple times a week during our summer vacation. In those days it was almost all day games. The things we saw during those subway rides I can write a book on it.

Mass transit is no place for normal people.
So, you are using as evidence that mass transit is unsafe a series of crimes that occured over 30 years ago?

I got news for you, cities today are MUCH safer than they were in the 70's. The 70's were much more crime-ridden than todayl. Dispite what most folks seem to think, crime in the US is WAYYYYYYYY down from what it used to be.

Ken
 
Old 05-13-2008, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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When I stop at a red light and I am next to a CAT bus, I look inside. At night it is all lit up inside and you can see the garbage that rides those buses.

What woman by herself would get on that bus? What man would for that matter? One can argue the stereotype that rides a bus all one wants but I know what I see and it is scary.

Back in the mid 70s there was a rash of bus driver slashings. Anyone remember that back in NYC? They caught the slasher but it continued. After half a dozen bus driver slashing incidents the oinkers learned it was copy cats. They ended up catching 3 slashers. They would just walk on a bus, after it started moving, they would slash their throats.

Us kids also used to take the subway to Shea Stadium a couple times a week during our summer vacation. In those days it was almost all day games. The things we saw during those subway rides I can write a book on it.

Mass transit is no place for normal people.
Tasers are cheaper than one fill up, lol.
 
Old 05-13-2008, 10:03 AM
 
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My issue with public transportation (and the reason i will refuse to ever use it) is simply lack of personal space and freedom

I enjoy driving my car because i like being able to do whatever i want. If i wanna blast some music i can, if i want it absolute quiet, i can. Im a smoker so i can smoke without having to care about others around me, etc etc... you dont have that luxury on public transportation

plus its annoying having to stop and wait for people to get on and off a bus, with my car the only stop i have to make is the one where I get off

Im not really one to care about the environment that much, and im not scared to go on a bus as ive never had an issue with being worried of getting mugged or something

its all about personal freedom
 
Old 05-13-2008, 10:05 AM
 
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If given the choice,this is your perfect home???
it is for me. I hate the boonies (where my parents live) and I hate suburbia. The city is the final option.
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