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05-15-2008, 09:45 AM
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Liberals scream 'Power the People', Conservatives yell 'Power to the Corporate CEOs' - which side is winning?
Right now US CEOs are making 350 times the company's average worker's pay. In Japan, the CEO makes 55 times. I think the Conservatives are winning.
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05-15-2008, 09:50 AM
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Remember 1994
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Actually, Liberals scream "Power to the Government", Conservatives, "Power to the Individual", but as far as your claim, what is the relevancy between what a CEO and as you say an (average workers) pay?
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05-15-2008, 10:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silas777
Actually, Liberals scream "Power to the Government", Conservatives, "Power to the Individual", but as far as your claim, what is the relevancy between what a CEO and as you say an (average workers) pay?
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Well 'Power to the People' is obviously empowering the 'average' worker, whereas 'Power to the CEOs' is obviously empowering the 'haves and Have-mores', 'his Base' to quote Bush'.
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05-15-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by gorgeet
Well 'Power to the People' is obviously empowering the 'average' worker, whereas 'Power to the CEOs' is obviously empowering the 'haves and Have-mores', 'his Base' to quote Bush'.
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If you believe(d) Bush when he says that he is a conservative then that's your problem. Neoconservative? Sure. Conservative? Absolutely not.
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05-15-2008, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gorgeet
Right now US CEOs are making 350 times the company's average worker's pay. In Japan, the CEO makes 55 times. I think the Conservatives are winning.
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So do you think that it should be left to the government, not the owners of the company (shareholders), to determine how much a CEO should be "allowed" to make?
How very Marxist.
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05-15-2008, 11:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silas777
Actually, Liberals scream "Power to the Government", Conservatives, "Power to the Individual", but as far as your claim, what is the relevancy between what a CEO and as you say an (average workers) pay?
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No, Libertarians scream Power to the Individual.
Liberals want to take care of you and Conservatives want to tell you how to behave. 
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05-15-2008, 11:24 AM
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What the mofo?!
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No, Libertarians scream Power to the Individual.
Liberals want to take care of you and Conservatives want to tell you how to behave. 
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Excellent points! A rep for you 
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05-15-2008, 11:27 AM
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Merry Festivus!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpy01
No, Libertarians scream Power to the Individual.
Liberals want to take care of you and Conservatives want to tell you how to behave. 
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I was thinking the same thing. 
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05-15-2008, 11:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gorgeet
Right now US CEOs are making 350 times the company's average worker's pay. In Japan, the CEO makes 55 times. I think the Conservatives are winning.
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I'd say that's a call to roll back legislation and taxes to promote competition so that a company that pays it's executives so much are uncompetitive.
You can't legislate pay-reductions. The only thing that does is put an army of lobbyists, accountants and lawyers to work to get around whatever you're trying to do. The rich always win.
However, creating an environment where it's beneficial for them to turn their guns on each other through competition rather than circumventing legislation, makes it better for all of us.
By the way, comparing the U.S. to Japan doesn't mean much. The culture of Japan is very oriented to the whole, rather than the individual... You can call that a pro or a con. However, whenever you make the comparison, it should be qualified with something like "although the Japanese are prone to group-think and the culture discouragous ingenuity, unlike the U.S."
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05-15-2008, 11:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fp1978
So do you think that it should be left to the government, not the owners of the company (shareholders), to determine how much a CEO should be "allowed" to make?
How very Marxist.
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I'm trying to figure out if that's more Marxist than the President and Treasury Secretary colluding with a supposedly independent Federal Reserve system to bail out Bear Stearns through reduced purchasing power of the dollar?
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