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Old 09-20-2021, 03:27 PM
 
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If it's such a pandemic among the unvaccinated like Biden says and if the vaccine works well against Delta, then how come 39 percent of deaths from September 4th to 11th were "vaccinated"

Dr. Anthony Fauci: Vaccines still work well against delta variant

President Joe Biden: 'We are still in a pandemic of the unvaccinated'

32 out of the 82 COVID deaths in Massachusetts from September 4th to September 11th were vaccinated.

https://www.mass.gov/info-details/co...health-report-

https://www.mass.gov/doc/weekly-repo...-2021/download


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6czLMLNvayo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iymhNWi_HhU



  • The data reported from these states indicate that breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are extremely rare events among those who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (see Figure 1). The rate of breakthrough cases reported among those fully vaccinated is below 1% in all reporting states, ranging from 0.01% in Connecticut to 0.54% in Arkansas.
    • The hospitalization rate among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 ranged from effectively zero (0.00%) in California, Delaware, D.C., Indiana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Vermont, and Virginia to 0.06% in Arkansas. (Note: Hospitalization may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)
    • The rates of death among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 were even lower, effectively zero (0.00%) in all but two reporting states, Arkansas and Michigan where they were 0.01%. (Note: Deaths may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)
    https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/cov...om-the-states/
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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Read your own link: for information on % of All Fully Vaccinated Individuals

Cases: 0.61%
Hospitalizations among cases: 0.02%
Deaths among cases: 0.004%

 As of September 11, 2021 there were 4,549,497 fully vaccinated people and there were 27,777 cases in vaccinated people

 823 of those 27,777 cases resulted in hospitalization and 194 cases resulted in death based on information reported to date

So based on all these numbers in the link your provided it would appear that the chance of a fully vaccinated person getting covid, getting hospitalized over it and subsequently passing doesn't add up to squat....

"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." -Joe Biden
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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Biden has never gotten any approval for booster shot for everyone yet he keeps pushing it. Remember how upset liberals were upset when Trump gave medical advice? Are they upset that Biden is now doing the same thing or being hypocrites?

The booster shot was approved for certain groups and is likely to be approved for more in a few weeks.
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:29 PM
 
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"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." -Joe Biden

The rate is much much much lower than if you are not vaccinated.
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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The rate is much mush mush lower than if you are not vaccinated.

"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." -Joe Biden
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." -Joe Biden
Joe Biden isn't a doctor.
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:32 PM
 
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wow. stop spreading this garbage. twist it any way you want but here's a link for you:


https://www.mass.gov/doc/weekly-repo...-2021/download


which kinda shows that - of 6000 covid deaths in MA - since the vaccine has been available - 194 of them were vaccinated.


The rest were not.



30 to 1. Not bad. You think it's going to get worse? Maybe 10 to 1? That would be PLENTY good enough. 5 to 1?

You betcha. I'll take it.



When it gets to 1 to 1, let us know - until then, stop whining about the only real tool we have.
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by lovecrowds View Post
If it's such a pandemic among the unvaccinated like Biden says and if the vaccine works well against Delta, then how come 39 percent of deaths from September 4th to 11th were "vaccinated"

Dr. Anthony Fauci: Vaccines still work well against delta variant

President Joe Biden: 'We are still in a pandemic of the unvaccinated'

32 out of the 82 COVID deaths in Massachusetts from September 4th to September 11th were vaccinated.

https://www.mass.gov/info-details/co...health-report-

https://www.mass.gov/doc/weekly-repo...-2021/download


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6czLMLNvayo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iymhNWi_HhU
To calculate the benefits of vaccination you need to look at the cases by age group in the same timeframe and then calculate the expected deaths based on the MA historical CFR. If you do so, you will see that the deaths are about 20% of what would have been expected without vaccination.
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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wow. stop spreading this garbage. twist it any way you want but here's a link for you:


https://www.mass.gov/doc/weekly-repo...-2021/download


which kinda shows that - of 6000 covid deaths in MA - since the vaccine has been available - 194 of them were vaccinated.


The rest were not.



30 to 1. Not bad. You think it's going to get worse? Maybe 10 to 1? That would be PLENTY good enough. 5 to 1?

You betcha. I'll take it.



When it gets to 1 to 1, let us know - until then, stop whining about the only real tool we have.
Love it.



End thread.

And I'm not even vaxxed which gives me more glee when the Trump crowd get put in their place.
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Old 09-20-2021, 03:43 PM
 
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Joe Biden isn't a doctor.

Then he needs to stop practicing medicine.
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