Sex Change For Kids ? (healthcare, Obama, own, thought)

[Puddy4LyF]

Originally Posted by tamiznluv

Oh but I do understand what happens in pregnancy. Both from having studied biology plus having my own children.

I'm sorry, but your original hypothesis, likening human beings to simple manufacturing machinary, projecting them all into one of two categories, sounds much different than anything I'd heard from a scholar of biology. I'm not trying to make fun of you, but these two aren't correlating for me. I would have to agree with the other poster.

I understand your point, though -- in theory, you're right! (though overpopulation should factor into why we're happy there is a significant homosexual population -- we definitely don't need more people)

However, that's not what we've been talking about. We're saying it's not altogether a choice, and anyone who thinks everyone choosing homosexuality is altogether a choice might as well be on a short bus.

For some reasons, many of these people just can't imagine that they're given bodies and minds that aren't altogether the same and perfect, and there is nothing wrong with it either.

There is just so much bigotry it's disgusting.

[LukePH]

Originally Posted by Puddy4LyF

Thinking.... thinking.... nope, pretty sure I'm not connecting with your attempt at logic.

Please view the October 2003 study by Dr. Charles E. Roselli et al. (Oregon Health and Science University) on male rams and homosexuality in nature. I believe I was wrong, however, as you may find his theory to have pin-pointed their homosexuality at a rate of approximately 8%.

(Hits myself in the face)

You really should hit yourself in the face, need any help? Seriously though, I love a guy who is an authority on gay rams, when is the next party?

[tamiznluv]

Originally Posted by Puddy4LyF

I'm sorry, but your original hypothesis, likening human beings to simple manufacturing machinary, projecting them all into one of two categories, sounds much different than anything I'd heard from a scholar of biology. I'm not trying to make fun of you, but these two aren't correlating for me. I would have to agree with the other poster.

I understand your point, though -- in theory, you're right! (though overpopulation should factor into why we're happy there is a significant homosexual population -- we definitely don't need more people)

However, that's not what we've been talking about. We're saying it's not altogether a choice, and anyone who thinks everyone choosing homosexuality is altogether a choice might as well be on a short bus.

For some reasons, many of these people just can't imagine that they're given bodies and minds that aren't altogether the same and perfect, and there is nothing wrong with it either.

There is just so much bigotry it's disgusting.

I apologise, I didn't mean to "liken" humans with machines, I was stating an allagory to show what I meant. Perhaps I sound conflicting because I learned the science in my schooling but then I discovered the Bible I was never really taught it when I was younger. The Catholic version which after I rejected the church, I rejected any spirituality. That was in the past. My present thoughts I still stand by even if I don't make myself clear. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to try and clarify myself. And ty for understanding my point in theory.

[fishmonger]

Originally Posted by oz in SC

Sheep aren't people.
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Therefore sheep cannot be homosexual.

Don't be silly. There are multiple definitions depending on which dictionary you use. For example, this simple one, from dictionary.com

adj: "sexually attracted to members of your own sex"

The sheep thing isn't to suggest that humans should act like animals, but rather part of a body of evidence suggesting that things such as sexual orientation are largely genetic in nature and therefore "natural," whether or not it's conducive to reproduction or you consider it "normal."

As to the subject of the topic, um... not kids, please. Their brains aren't developed all the way yet. If you decide to go through with it after your faculties are all there then it doesn't bother me, whatever makes you happy as long as you're not hurting anybody or putting yourself in a frame of mind where you might hurt somebody, you know?

[boiseguy]

doctors have and do make judgement calls all the time when it comes to sex of a child... It is my understanding that almost 1 in 100 children born are some sort of hermaphrodite... and many times the parents of the children are forced with making a decision on which sex the child should be... many times it is the wrong choice... there's been numerous tv specials about the issue... gender and sexuality are not black and white.. because life isn't black and white.. we're human beings.. we have a sense of personal identity.. and for many people their internal view of themselves does not reflect what the world see's them as... and many times it has nothing to do with being gay or straight... its gender identity disorders...
I get so sick of people just blurting out trash when it comes to science and medicine... assuming that because no such issues existed in their family or circle's that it doesn't exist and is soooo strange and weird... doctors are in the position of looking after the wellbeing of EVERYONE that walks in their door..... I wish some of you would just quit being twits about everything.. and be a little bit compassionate and understanding of a situation... its hard to put yourself in another's shoes... but trying to do so is what brings about compassion and love in this world... condemnation and finger pointing and disgust founded on ill-informed gesters... really gets on my nerves.. and it does nothing but tear at other people and make their lives even more of a living hell than it already is...

[silas777]

Originally Posted by tamiznluv

Wow, 6 pages since I left! Before the thread gets shut down I want to ask the people who see nothing wrong with this transgendering for children....

Do you know anything about electricity, mechanics, machinery?? Whether you do or don't, I think most everyone knows the simple concept of "male" and "female" parts in any subject. Just like human beings, THEY FIT TOGETHER!!!! Male and female fit together. Period.

Not gonna work Tammy Ive tried that same argument, I believe it is just to simple and logic for such a complex issue!

[BigHouse9]

Originally Posted by Puddy4LyF

Did you graduate high school or attain your GED? Tell me you don't have children which you are currently passing on this sort of logic on to.

Can only people experience homosexuality? The answer is no. We aren't even debating that -- the question is WHY. If you repeat your same lines of ignorance, then you are making yourself look like an idiot, and if anyone on this board knows you in person, then you're also soiling your family name.

Unbelievable.

"Homo" - Latin for man

[BigHouse9]

Originally Posted by Puddy4LyF

What's wrong with having a sex change? How is it perverted? In retrospect, I can't believe you'd fix your child's downs-syndrome or hemophilia -- how perverted.

Well I guess you can say that you are not equating homosexuality with a disease but then again, by your own analogy, you contradict yourself. The same way that homosexuality is not a race but is often compared to a race is convenient.

[Charleston]

Gender identity issues are NOT the same thing as homosexuality, not even close really.

[oz in SC]

Charlestown,hopefully you are happy in your new identity.

It is I imagine a difficult life you have chosen.