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Old 05-22-2022, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Nope. There are centuries' worth of porn drawings, paintings, and prints of all kinds that can be seen in the closed rooms of Europe's art museums. Fewer of those rooms exist now; but while the works can be openly seen, once a visitor buys a ticket into the museum, Photography is still prohibited, as the museums are all big money-makers.

Rembrandt created some of it. Some was drawn for his own pleasure, but he sold most of it to his Dutch patrons, who displayed it in their homes and sometimes in their businesses openly.

The pictures were part of the way people entertained visitors, especially the important folks. Some were made for instruction and presented to newly-weds and was presented as an expensive gift.

Artists from later periods produced stacks of porn. Gustav Klimpt painted some that is still displayed in Vienna's private homes, government offices, and businesses.
Picasso also painted and drew a lot of porn. Some of it was glazed into the pottery he made.

The notion that porn should be tucked away, out of sight, arose in the Victorian era. A time that Americans clung to far longer than Europe.
Like most things that came late to America, we overdid once porn wasn't blanketed in illegality. We always overdo with stuff that was once forbidden.


The Victorians has all kinds of dirty books, and people watched peep shows and burlesque dancers who would strip.

Prostitution was also ripe in Dickensian London, as were Opium dens and most drugs could be legally obtained from corner shops, with heroin and cocaine forming part of many over the counter medicines. Whilst Beer ad Gin were consumed in copious amounts.

Jack the Ripper famously stalked the streets of London at the time.

Circus Freak shows, penny dreadful's and gothic horror were also part of the culture.

Prostitution is indeed the oldest profession, along with pornography and stripping.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Nope. There are centuries' worth of porn drawings, paintings, and prints of all kinds that can be seen in the closed rooms of Europe's art museums. Fewer of those rooms exist now; but while the works can be openly seen, once a visitor buys a ticket into the museum, Photography is still prohibited, as the museums are all big money-makers.
Correct. Plenty of live sex shows and peep shows existed before the camera as well.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:56 AM
 
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The history of porn within the last 100 yrs proves without a doubt that we are ALL being desensitized to this slowly and methodically, and that is frightening to me.



Its frightening that so many people are ashamed and terrified of sex.


Insulating that looking at porn makes you some kind of sexual deviant is like saying looking at pictures of food makes you fat.
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Old 05-22-2022, 08:23 AM
 
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You do realize that there are porn sites for women and by women?


https://www.o.school/article/feminist-porn
Sure. I get that. However I will say the majority of porn is made by men and marketed to men.
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:43 AM
 
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if you can't see the difference between "barely legal porn" and kiddie porn there's something wrong with you.

As some others have pointed out the age of consent was way lower 100 years ago. So maybe ankles showing was considered porn but grown men were marrying and having sex with 12 year olds. Yea lets go back to that, makes totals sense.
You are missing the point...can you not see the specific direction that 'barely legal porn' is heading towards?


Look at it this way...a guy enjoys barely legal porn, (so we can say he prefers to see YOUNG people, barely of age) engaged in porn...do you see where Im going with this now?


How long do you think that guy will be content with 'barely legal' material...before he starts wanting something YOUNGER?


This is why porn is where its at today, people who view porn are like drug addicts, they are not content looking at the same thing forever, they always want to see harder, or more exotic, illegal porn, that is the nature of pornography.
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Old 05-22-2022, 10:27 AM
 
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Porn has gone to the extremes. They push boundaries. I think if you watch a lot of it then your sex life could be ruined. Very few women in this world will do what a woman in porn does. Some say that porn empowers women. To me it degrades them. It also belittles women in the eyes of men. Just my thoughts on the issue. Some will have a different opinion.
I agree but in some regards I disagree with your statement here. I prefer mystery. I don’t want everything shown to me and shoved in my face. When you’re in a relationship with a woman, I’m a man, learning things together and unwrapping each other and getting to know each other and creating exciting new environments it’s fun. But due to the nature surrounding porn everyone has these expectations.

The part I disagree with, as a man who is currently in the dating world I am mine boggled and my mind is blown by the things that women are into these days. Yes, they are doing the things and want the things that you often see in porn. Not all women of course but some. I’ve had Women describe things they wanted sexually that I’m not comfortable with. I’m OK with being the dominant of the two of us but I’m not gonna degrade, belittle, torture, you name it. I find that most women who desire these things have had bad things happen to them in their past usually their childhood and I’m not going to participate in it. I don’t care if it’s sexually stimulates them. But they are out there. It’s not just in porn.
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Old 05-22-2022, 10:37 AM
 
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lots of ancient artifacts contain pornography. mankind is a sexual being regardless if christ is or isn't in the picture.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Sure. I get that. However I will say the majority of porn is made by men and marketed to men.
Wrong. Alot of porn is produced by women on sites like onlyfans. As far as who watches porn, both men and women watch it.

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76 percent of 18 to 30-year-old American women report that they watch porn at least once a month, Covenant Eyes reports.
https://archive.attn.com/stories/462...n-demographics
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:21 AM
 
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The Victorians has all kinds of dirty books, and people watched peep shows and burlesque dancers who would strip.
The Victorians (and the Georgians) were kinky as all out.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:23 AM
 
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A brilliant man. But the sad thing about Tom Lehrer is that most of his songs remain as relevant today as they were 50 years ago.
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