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Old 05-25-2022, 11:36 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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No they couldn’t because again, money rules over parties and everything you said. There’s too much and business in the problems continuing than stopping.

Let’s say a Democrat proposed the laws you mentioned. Are you saying Republicans would just say “sure. Let’s do it!”
You answered my question in your first paragraph. The Democrats are beholden to money. They don't really care about murdered school children. They blame Republicans for that which they are at fault for.

Regarding your second point. Yes, the Republicans would have to just sit there and take it. They are the minority.
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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You didn't read my post. I asked about Democrats, not Republicans. The Democrats could do it without the Republicans if they wanted to. The Republicans technically have no say as the minority.
Last time they did the trick, they lost many supporters for life. Although, right at this moment, they are already scheduled to lose big and they might go for it. Well, there is a question of passing any new gun legislation through the Supreme Court as well... Obamacare (and subsequent legislative battle) was a good example of pushing through a law that does not have support of both parties.
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:39 AM
 
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That's the typical response....blame the government for something someone did.
Exactly. The Democrats are the government, so they are blaming themselves. But their rhetoric is that it's the Republicans' fault.
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:40 AM
 
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You answered my question in your first paragraph. The Democrats are beholden to money. They don't really care about murdered school children. They blame Republicans for that which they are at fault for.

Regarding your second point. Yes, the Republicans would have to just sit there and take it. They are the minority.
So Democrats are the party of Capitalism?

Texas is a Red state. What are your points to show that Republicans DO care about murdered school children?

I’m open to being made a fool of. Describe the agenda and plan that Republicans initiate to show “they’re trying to fix the problem by ___”
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:41 AM
 
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It's not entirely clear if any of those restrictions would pass the scrutiny of Supreme Court.
Then let the Supreme Court turn them down and then the Democrats can blame the Supreme Court. But until then, it's the Democrats' own fault for not passing laws that they believe would work.
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:41 AM
 
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Exactly. The Democrats are the government, so they are blaming themselves. But their rhetoric is that it's the Republicans' fault.
They still happened under Trump.

When George Bush was in office school shootings happened (remember Virginia Tech?).
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:42 AM
 
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Because Republicans are in bed with the gun lobbyists that would stop it and money is supreme in this country. Every single problem that persists in this climate is because politicians’ careers are dependent on them not getting fixed and okay with it because it won’t hit close to home. Could “tough on crime” politicians exist if there’s no crime? Out of all these school shootings how many of the children are the children of politicians? That’s why it won’t get fixed.

Children getting aborted in Texas is more important than children getting shot in the same state because “mUh fREedOms”.
I actually think what you said that's underlined is generally accurate... except that you misapplied your statement to "tough on crime" politicians. The tough on crime crowd does seek to change laws, but enforce them. Your statement should be applied to politicians advocating a change in policy - which is what the gun control crowd wants.

You could apply your statement to forgiving student loans debt. The politicians advocating for student loan debt are not subject to student load debt themselves. They created the problem... the problem exists for them to campaign on - not to actually fix the problem.
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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Last time they did the trick, they lost many supporters for life. Although, right at this moment, they are already scheduled to lose big and they might go for it. Well, there is a question of passing any new gun legislation through the Supreme Court as well... Obamacare (and subsequent legislative battle) was a good example of pushing through a law that does not have support of both parties.
True. In other words, they really don't want to pass gun control laws. They just want to blame Republicans for no passing gun control laws. So, again, the blood of murdered school children is on their hands for not doing what they claim to know would have saved those kids' lives.
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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Because Republicans are in bed with the gun lobbyists that would stop it and money is supreme in this country. Every single problem that persists in this climate is because politicians’ careers are dependent on them not getting fixed and okay with it because it won’t hit close to home. Could “tough on crime” politicians exist if there’s no crime? Out of all these school shootings how many of the children are the children of politicians? That’s why it won’t get fixed.

Children getting aborted in Texas is more important than children getting shot in the same state because “mUh fREedOms”.
Protip: Republicans aren’t in charge of the House and White House for almost 2 years
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Old 05-25-2022, 11:45 AM
 
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Protip: Republicans aren’t in charge of the House and White House for almost 2 years
Pro tip: School shootings aren’t a new thing and I mentioned above the Virginia Tech school shooting happened during Bush’s presidency as well.

Take a look at this story:
https://www.wjhl.com/news/regional/t...tennessee/amp/

This man left a blue state to go to a red state and acquire dozens of guns. Why did he go to the red state to get guns and not the blue state?
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