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Old 05-28-2022, 03:49 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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I wonder where all these different stats are coming from. Many look to be inaccurate.

"The United States outstrips anywhere else in the world in terms of gun ownership, gun-related homicides and public mass shootings. It has 120 firearms per 100 people — more than twice as many per capita than war-torn Yemen, the next highest country on the list.

Despite having 4 percent of the world's population, the U.S. made up 31 percent of all public mass shootings globally between 1966 and 2012, according to a 2015 study by Adam Lankford, a professor of criminal justice at the University of Alabama."


No one's done a study since 2012? I can't find any recent data.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...lane-rcna30446

https://everytownresearch.org/maps/m...gs-in-america/
Well if it helps there have been over 200 mass shootings in the US in 2022 alone! I know for a fact there have been 0 in the UK and as far as I know 0 in the whole of Europe!
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Old 05-28-2022, 06:51 PM
 
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Well if it helps there have been over 200 mass shootings in the US in 2022 alone! I know for a fact there have been 0 in the UK and as far as I know 0 in the whole of Europe!
As far as you know there have been zero because you haven’t done any research. Define mass shooting.
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Old 05-28-2022, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Thanks for making my point. Blame the left, say things are worse in Belgium (Belgium of all ****ing places), and try to change the topic by saying fix the family. Congratulation you hit the trifecta of BS. And, yeah, I know ****ing better than you.
Hang on, someone points to the actual problem you get insulting? What's going one here? You actually want the blame to be placed on guns? Is that it?

So why is that up until 2013, all violence was at an all-time low. Gun violence was at a minimum too. Gun possession only increased after the riots and violence of 2019. Yet all violence, including gun violence started to rise after 2013. How can that be the fault of the gun?
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Old 05-29-2022, 03:51 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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As far as you know there have been zero because you haven’t done any research. Define mass shooting.
Perhaps you can show me some examples of European mass shootings in 2022? OVer 200 in the US in 2022 ALONE, see how many you can find have happened in the WHOLE of Europe and we'll compare!

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/15/10990...2-tally-number

You can use the same criteria that was used for the US, which is I believe a mass shooting is 4 or more people shot at the same incident.

Then afterwards we can compare the total amounts of people shot to death between the US and the WHOLE of Europe.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...nt-tsr-vpx.cnn
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Old 05-29-2022, 04:56 AM
 
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What katharsis and others wrote: if a country that has only around 5 pct of the world's population accounts for 1.5 pct of mass shooting deaths, then the latter percentage may be significantly high.
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Old 05-29-2022, 05:47 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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What katharsis and others wrote: if a country that has only around 5 pct of the world's population accounts for 1.5 pct of mass shooting deaths, then the latter percentage may be significantly high.
The US is supposed to be a 1st world country yet its gun crime is more like Honduras than ANY other 1st world country, the amount of people shot to death every year in the USA is shameful, but what is most shameful is the reluctance of its population to do anything about it.
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Old 05-29-2022, 06:12 AM
 
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Does this include several million mass shooting deaths in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan?

If you count all people in the world killed violently by aimed and directed weapon fiire, Americans probably pulled 90% of the triggers.
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Old 05-29-2022, 07:35 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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if a country that has only around 5 pct of the world's population accounts for 1.5 pct of mass shooting deaths, then the latter percentage may be significantly high.
The second figure is false. The OP got his/her "data" from a YouTube clip.
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Old 05-29-2022, 07:39 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Define mass shooting.
"The U.S. government has never defined mass shooting as a separate category of crime, and there is not yet a broadly accepted definition of the term. In the 1980s, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defined mass murderer as someone who “kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location” (Krouse and Richardson, 2015). In 2013, Congress defined mass killing as a single incident that leaves three or more people dead (Pub. L. 112-265, 2013). However, both definitions include many incidents that would not be considered mass shootings."

https://www.rand.org/research/gun-po...shootings.html
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Old 05-30-2022, 01:53 AM
 
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You know, since the Uvalde incident, there have been twelve more mass shootings in the US. Most with no deaths, but multiple gunshot wounds victim. Total eight more dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...States_in_2022
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