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Earth to posters. Demand is dropping. No one is going to build new refineries. If we needed them they would have been built already. The market will work. American will buy more fuel efficient cars. The government will start to do the right thing -- at least Congress made Bush stop filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. What a tool Bush is -- filling the SPR was certainly a factor in the recent price increase.
American will buy more fuel efficient cars. The government will start to do the right thing -- at least Congress made Bush stop filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. What a tool Bush is -- filling the SPR was certainly a factor in the recent price increase.
I hate to bring this up again for about the thousanth time, but we must realize that the United States is not at the center of the universe on this issue. Once again there is this belief that Americans will buy small cars, bike to work, and move to cities and the energy crisis will be averted.
Once again there is name calling "What a tool Bush is" and some thought that our strategic reserve and Bush are at the crux of the problem.
Regardless of our desire to conserve, the rest of the world is driving the bus on this one. Demand continues to go up world wide, so we would not be immune by all driving golf carts. And golf carts don't distribute foodstuffs and critical services. Big trucks do.
We need a comprehensive plan and not the "hearing of the problem of the day" mentality to really solve the problem.
Yeah, well like I said, I'm doing my part...it's better than what some of you people are NOT doing. But I still hear all the complaining & justifying of why you don't even attempt to conserve, just a wee bit. How pathetic & selfish.
What make you think because you are driving a small car or something and then have so many energy wasting other ways you are and we aren't doing our part.Heck just calling for more drilling is doing their part for energy use in this country and the economy. If you live in a city and drive many think you are part of the problem.Drive over 12000 mile a year and you are part of the problem.Work in a non producing industry and you are part of the problem. Just depeneds on your outlook.
I hate to bring this up again for about the thousanth time, but we must realize that the United States is not at the center of the universe on this issue. Once again there is this belief that Americans will buy small cars, bike to work, and move to cities and the energy crisis will be averted.
Once again there is name calling "What a tool Bush is" and some thought that our strategic reserve and Bush are at the crux of the problem.
Regardless of our desire to conserve, the rest of the world is driving the bus on this one. Demand continues to go up world wide, so we would not be immune by all driving golf carts. And golf carts don't distribute foodstuffs and critical services. Big trucks do.
We need a comprehensive plan and not the "hearing of the problem of the day" mentality to really solve the problem.
What nonsense; we consume over 25% of the world's oil and we are 5% of the world's population. China consumes about 10% of the world's oil and is 20% of the world's population.
If oil companies won't build refineries I see no reason why a government entity, whether state or federal can't build some. We have public utilities, why not public refineries? It could be argued on a national security basis.
Clinton vetoed drilling in Alaska 13 years ago. If this had been allowed, we'd have maybe a million more barrels a day by some estimates. This was an unwise thing for Clinton to do and we are paying for it now. Also Florida has much oil off their coasts but won't allow drilling. This has also been unwise and short sighted. We are paying for Florida's NIMBY attitude.
What nonsense; we consume over 25% of the world's oil and we are 5% of the world's population. China consumes about 10% of the world's oil and is 20% of the world's population.
Agree.
Although demand in places like China and India has increased dramatically, the fact that the U.S. still takes about 25% of the market gives us A LOT of room to influence the market. A sustained effort to decrease demand in the U.S. will send enough of a shock wave in international oil markets to bring the oil down. Remember, the speculators are betting that supplies won't meet demand. If we can prove to them that they will easily meet demand in the U.S., they'll stop betting on oil and you'll see a retreat.
If oil companies won't build refineries I see no reason why a government entity, whether state or federal can't build some. We have public utilities, why not public refineries? It could be argued on a national security basis.
Clinton vetoed drilling in Alaska 13 years ago. If this had been allowed, we'd have maybe a million more barrels a day by some estimates. This was an unwise thing for Clinton to do and we are paying for it now. Also Florida has much oil off their coasts but won't allow drilling. This has also been unwise and short sighted. We are paying for Florida's NIMBY attitude.
We don't need more refineries. There are some bottleneck in switching octane additives from MTBE to ethanol, but that's not accomplished at the refinery. We have adequate refining capacity for our needs. You haven't found a station without gasoline have you?
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