SUV drivers should be charged with TREASON!!!! (Al Gore, Kennedy, Canada)

[MetroBTR]

Originally Posted by 58robbo

I have read several posts whingeing about high gas prices. it's big oils fault for profiteering! it's the governements fault for overtaxing! it's the feds fault for devaluing the dollar! it's opecs fault for being greedy! it's environmentalists fault for protesting against wildlife preserve exploration! it's speculators fault for creating false demand! the Chinese and Indians are to blame for giving up their bicycles to buy cars! it's george bush's fault! blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda

whenever i'm in the states i seem to come across a large number of grossly oversized vehicles. a large number of these have US flags brandished across them in some shape or form. a large percentage of their owners sport flags outside their homes. to me this is all a big con. those people aren't patriots, they're traitors!

Guilty of bankrupting the US and financing Al Qaeda, they should be flying saudi flags instead!

You are stupid, if you knew anything, you would know that right now the biggest market for large vehicles is the Chinese upper class. They can afford it because gas is so much cheaper in China than it is here and in Europe. If anything America is distancing itself from huge vehicles such as the Escalade, Excursion, Suburban, etc. for every one very large SUV these days I see about twenty crossovers or small fuel efficient SUVs like Toyota Rav-4's or Honda CR-V's. It is even rarer to see a large SUV on the Interstate with out of state plates, meaning people are thinking before loading up a thousand pounds of overpacked luggage in the back of the family tank and taking off on vacation or what have you.

[MetroBTR]

My wife drives a 2006 Ford Explorer 12 miles roundtrip to and from work, Monday thru Friday. I drive a 2007 Chevy Tahoe about 8 miles roundtrip to and from work on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Before I get charged with Treason for owning these vehicles and dislpaying an American flag in my front yard, you might also be interested to know that I lost my best friend from my childhood while we were in the Vietnam war, or that my son is a former Marine. To call someone un-american based on the vehicle they drive when you know nothing about their life, or their past, is just stupid.

[MetroBTR]

Originally Posted by MrKrabs

I wonder the same thing. I can see how many people need a pickup truck for work, but I can't think of a job that would REQUIRE an SUV....

My sister is in pharmaceutical sales and the vehicle she uses to drive around and make sales all day is a 2005 Dodge Caravan without the rear seats. They use the entire back to store all those samples they bring around to the doctors offices. It is supposed to get 16mpg city and 23mpg highway, but she says that is about 1-2mpg optimistic. I realize this is classified as a "minivan" but it is still a large vehicle with fairly poor gas mileage that is a necessity for her to get her job done. If she had to cram a smaller amound of samples into a little honda civic or a prius and then have to make trips back and forth to get more samples, she would end up using the same amount of gas as she would with the van that has enough room for everything she is going to need during the day.

[58robbo]

Originally Posted by MrKrabs

$92 is not a lot of money to fill your tank with gas???? What planet are you living on?

yip but i'd rather contribute $40 to terrorism every 2 weeks than $93 everyweek!

if another moron pipes up with the "i buy exxon" line again.......
we are a net importer of gas. the more WE use the more WE import. end of

[58robbo]

Originally Posted by MetroBTR

You are stupid, if you knew anything, you would know that right now the biggest market for large vehicles is the Chinese upper class. They can afford it because gas is so much cheaper in China than it is here and in Europe. If anything America is distancing itself from huge vehicles such as the Escalade, Excursion, Suburban, etc. for every one very large SUV these days I see about twenty crossovers or small fuel efficient SUVs like Toyota Rav-4's or Honda CR-V's. It is even rarer to see a large SUV on the Interstate with out of state plates, meaning people are thinking before loading up a thousand pounds of overpacked luggage in the back of the family tank and taking off on vacation or what have you.

1) once again i will be the last person to defend china but chinese per capita oil consumption sits at around 5 barrels per person per year. ours is just off 70 barrels per person per year.
2) what a marvelous example we set.
3) yes we are distancing ourselves from the big SUV's. bravo

[58robbo]

Originally Posted by MetroBTR

My wife drives a 2006 Ford Explorer 12 miles roundtrip to and from work, Monday thru Friday. I drive a 2007 Chevy Tahoe about 8 miles roundtrip to and from work on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Before I get charged with Treason for owning these vehicles and dislpaying an American flag in my front yard, you might also be interested to know that I lost my best friend from my childhood while we were in the Vietnam war, or that my son is a former Marine. To call someone un-american based on the vehicle they drive when you know nothing about their life, or their past, is just stupid.

imagine how it would've felt like back then if you knew that the bullets coming your way were indirectly financed by your own people?

we cannot end our dependence on foreign oil but we can definitely lessen it and begin dealing with our trade deficit of which oil is a major contributing factor.

[58robbo]

Originally Posted by MetroBTR

My sister is in pharmaceutical sales and the vehicle she uses to drive around and make sales all day is a 2005 Dodge Caravan without the rear seats. They use the entire back to store all those samples they bring around to the doctors offices. It is supposed to get 16mpg city and 23mpg highway, but she says that is about 1-2mpg optimistic. I realize this is classified as a "minivan" but it is still a large vehicle with fairly poor gas mileage that is a necessity for her to get her job done. If she had to cram a smaller amound of samples into a little honda civic or a prius and then have to make trips back and forth to get more samples, she would end up using the same amount of gas as she would with the van that has enough room for everything she is going to need during the day.

if it's a necessity then this thread doesn't apply to her. and btw i am not the judge on what is or what isn't a necessity. we can all be our own judge.

[Robhu]

If I can afford to drive an SUV and put gas in it, that is my right.
They are made in this country also.
Would it be better to not be a "traitor" and put hundreds of people out of work that support their families building SUV's?
Get real people. It just isn't the SUV's in America that is the sole cause of the problem.
It is the money grabbing big oil company's all over the world that decided it is time to get rich off the working populace.
And we have a puppet president that supports it becausse he has to take care of his big oil buddy's in Texas. He dang sure can't take care of the country so he just takes care of his friends.
Well, it's time to jump in my 350 cid truck and go to work.
The only people that should be charged with treason are the politicians that help line the pockets of big company's that are stealing from all of us.
The US has areas to find new oil. We don't do it because it might displace some dang endangered frog or a rare species of some bug somewhere.
Lets get back to common sense.
Whoops, I guess "common sense" isn't in the dictionary these days.
It's been replaced with greed and political correctness.

[JFRRACING]

WOW! I can't beleave you guys have so much to argue about. round 4 ding ding ding ha ha ha lol

[58robbo]

Originally Posted by Robhu

Would it be better to not be a "traitor" and put hundreds of people out of work that support their families building SUV's?

why, are they incapable of building smaller cars?????
to spell that out for folks who don't get it. if you can build an suv you can build a smaller car. in fact you might have to employ a few more designers/researchers to come up with new safety/ efficiency/ performance ideas and to keep up-to-date with what automakers outside have been doing.