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Old 08-04-2022, 12:33 PM
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Demi Who? I read the attached piece the OP supplied to find out and left the page thinking "This person is a role model for teens and young adults" ???

What a mess.

She claims “I’m such a fluid person when it comes to my gender, my sexuality, my music, my creativity,”

Also "Lovato now uses both “they” and “she” pronouns, according to her Instagram account. She has also said she identifies as both ***** and pansexual."



She/he? is/ was also a drug addict that had an overdose that caused multiple strokes and brain damage. She was lucky to survive. She is proud to have recorded her new album entitled "Holy F**K" sober.



I still say Demi Who? I looked it up and she is 29 which means her time as a role model to young people may soon be over because as Jack Weinberg said, Never trust anyone over 30...



The "Music industry" is strange these days. It seems that it takes more than having the look, a good beat and catchy lyrics, one also has to have a weird and woke backstory to really capture the spotlight.
She got some help after assaulting one of the dancers on her tour for basically no reason. She is seriously messed up in the head. Another one of those Disney stars go loco.
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Old 08-04-2022, 12:35 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Hm.

Lou Reed, David Bowie, Iggy Pop, David Johansen, Mick Jagger, Marc Bolan, Queen, Freddie Mercury ...

All pretty creative guys. All cross dressed on occasion (or more frequently). All bent gender roles.

All around 50 years ago.

So much for "these days".
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But they all wanted to be referred to as a man
and none of them insisted we pretend they were actually women. or adopt fake pronouns to address them.

massive fail for o-girl.
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Old 08-04-2022, 12:48 PM
 
Location: My house
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and none of them insisted we pretend they were actually women. or adopt fake pronouns to address them.

massive fail for o-girl.
i agree with Matt Walsh and his take on it. it does sound like narcissistic personality disorder.
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Old 08-04-2022, 12:54 PM
 
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I'm feeling feeling feline.

Meeeooow. Prrrrrr.

If anyone can be anything then kittah. MEOW.
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Old 08-04-2022, 12:55 PM
 
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We must have it REALLY great in this country if people make a press conference out of which PRONOUNS they prefer people to use.
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Old 08-04-2022, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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We must have it REALLY great in this country if people make a press conference out of which PRONOUNS they prefer people to use.
And now social media is starting to kick people off, for not using the correct pronouns, "dead names," or not using the correct gender du jour, for the trans fluid community. It's impossible to follow these people, and to not follow their fluid name and gender changes means you are evil, and an unfit human being, and banned from engaging in discussions within the public square.
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Old 08-04-2022, 01:23 PM
 
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And now social media is starting to kick people off, for not using the correct pronouns, "dead names," or not using the correct gender du jour, for the trans fluid community. It's impossible to follow these people, and to not follow their fluid name and gender changes means you are evil, and an unfit human being, and banned from engaging in discussions within the public square.
I just started a thread on that. The Bee nails it once again..

https://youtu.be/lICcbBg9mgM
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Old 08-04-2022, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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All may have appeared androgynous at times, but none claimed , or flip flopped on what they were.
That wasn't what you said. I was replying to your actual words, and cannot read minds.

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I think he came out as bi in the 70s, then said he regretted it in the 80s, and died while married to Iman Abdulmajid.
Hm. That just might sound like flip flopping ...

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It's hard to tell what he was, and it doesn't matter. I think he was more open, experimental, and non-judgemental than most normal people could fathom.
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Either way, his music was great. I might have to throw my first pressing "Changes One" album on the turntable.
So "flip flopping" is OK if you like the music? I don't know any, but Demi Lovato's fans must be OK with her, then.

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and none of them insisted we pretend they were actually women. or adopt fake pronouns to address them.
That was not what I was addressing. Please follow along.
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Old 08-04-2022, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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First of all I have no idea who this person is until I heard her in the news recently. apparently she is a famous singer who started using they/them pronouns but now switched back to she/her because she has been “feeling feminine recently”



source: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/02/enter...cec/index.html

Since it is not an uncommon thing apparently to change your pronouns if you are non-binary, I’m wondering what the implications this has on a broader scale such as in schools? How does one keep up with constantly changing these pronouns without being labeled a bigot? Say there was a boy who had a birth name of Ted but then on one day decided to be Bill? how do you know if he is Ted or Bill on any given day?

Borderline personally disorder can also cause this kind of gender instability.
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Old 08-04-2022, 08:23 PM
 
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That wasn't what you said. I was replying to your actual words, and cannot read minds.


Hm. That just might sound like flip flopping ...


Exactly.


So "flip flopping" is OK if you like the music? I don't know any, but Demi Lovato's fans must be OK with her, then.


That was not what I was addressing. Please follow along.
What are you even trying to say ? Bowie came out as gay. He didn't flip flop on how he wanted others to address him.
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