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Old 08-11-2022, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Texas
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-rand-...175015196.html

Funny that he doesn’t want them to just not spend the money to reduce the deficit.

Shouldn’t he be telling his constituents to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?

Maybe he is worried about getting re-elected and needs to get more money for another surgery in Canada…
...sigh He said to use the unspent covid funds, which have been accounted for, to go towards the Kentucky disaster. He's doing what he always does, find a way to help with increasing spending.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:20 AM
 
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It’s hypocritical because there is this thing called a voting record and on his record he has voted against relief when disasters strike other states.

https://www.newsweek.com/rand-paul-o...-1658537?amp=1
No he doesn't nad you have no proof. What he's against is funding above and beyond what has been allocated without cutting costs elsewhere. Like taking the money set aside for helping foreign nations. Take care of Americans first.

Granted none of this matters to people who constantly get things incorrect because they can't figure out they've been misled over and over or they just don't care.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:21 AM
 
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He voted against the funds he's excited to use now and take credit for.

That's the thing.
He has NEVER voted against the funds he's excited to use now and take credit for.

That's the truth

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Many of the Republicans who voted down funds, take the money, use it and then claim credit for it like they had some role in acquiring the funding. They didn't they fought against it.
Yet you have no proof of this.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I think you are mostly right, but he's arguing that there is a difference:

1) Covid money was raised nationally for all states equally so there is no favoritism versus past disaster relief raised nationally to just targeted areas where other local disasters were ignored by congress altogether making it unfair for congress to pick winners and losers so he didn't want the game played.

2) This covid money for Kentucky has already been budgeted and is sitting useless as covid is not a big deal anymore versus raising money from scratch to a new budget.

It does seem offensive to the previous disaster reliefs he voted against, but there is some truth in what he is saying as well.
He never voted against previous disaster reliefs and you have no proof.
He votes against increased spending.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:25 AM
 
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Sorry, but Paul's reasoning doesn't fly. He is being a hypocrite and only cares about his constituents, not anyone effected by a disaster. Paul has grandstanded too often.
Sorry, but mkpunk reasoning doesn't fly because it isn't the truth.

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As for why COVID funding has been allocated and not all spent goes back to Trump COVID relief. It was limited to avoid governors using COVID funding for whatever pet project their hearts desired.
lol None of this matters. That you actually think it's a good idea to allow unspent covid money to sit in place and do nothing is laughable. Any wonder why you get so much wrong when it comes to economics?

A twisted partisan agenda will do that.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:27 AM
 
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I agree, in this case it's appropriate because of the flooding disaster.


Here's the question, what is the republican model for funding natural disasters which are happening more frequently in all parts of the country?

1) Every state creates their own emergency natural disaster relief fund. States take care of their own funding with no help from the federal government.

2) States pool their money into a federal natural disaster relief fund and the $ is allocated to states as emergencies arise. This the current model.
....sigh

"There has been 92% decline in the decadal death toll from natural disasters since its peak in the 1920s. In that decade, 5.4 million people died from natural disasters. In the 2010s, 400,000 did."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...h=4d0ed3391897

1) Is the way to go.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:28 AM
 
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I'm sorry, but that is grandstanding. Paul should have stood up when it came to foreign aide spending during a vote on foreign aide, not when it was disaster relief aide.
he already has stepped up time and time again. Granted you wont hear that from the uninformed hacks you listen too.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:29 AM
 
Location: NC
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Nope you can't avoid addressing the fact Rand Paul is happy to spend money when it benefits him by 'whataboutism'.

Call him out for it.

He's wrong.

He's a hypocrite.

And by the way I support his call for a cut across the budget for expenditures.

But in this case he is hypocritical.

Don't spend the money -- except for my projects.
^^THIS. Sure, there are wrongs from all sides, but the Trump/Rightest seem desperate to make themselves blind to what their own side does. They can't call them out, they just deflect to what the left is doing.

Have some integrity. Feel free to bash the left for the many things they do wrong, but do it in context. When your team gets called out, either admit it, or give some objective facts that give another picture. "Someone else did something wrong" is in no way relevant. It's what children do to try to get out of trouble with mommy and daddy.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:30 AM
 
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No I find it to be grandstanding. Fight against foreign aide during foreign aide bills, not domestic FEMA aide bills related to federal disaster relief.
You also think abortion and marriage are rights. Doesn't make it true.

It's a fight against increased spending. Not that you care about the truth.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:32 AM
 
Location: NC
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You also think abortion and marriage are rights. Doesn't make it true.

It's a fight against increased spending. Not that you care about the truth.
It was true until the SCOTUS became an activist court, stacked by the right, by illegally denying Obama his court appointments.

BTW, nice deflection. Once again, showing you can't refute the ACTUAL points, so you have to change the subject to something that fits your agenda.

Amazing you guys blame everyone for that which you are the experts at.
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