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Old 11-30-2022, 10:39 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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On the one hand I am certain that Walensky doesn’t mean to exactly celebrate what was done to these men, but on the other she demonstrates a complete moral vacuity here. Clearly she believes that the scientific benefit of the study was significant enough that the men involved should be honored for their “sacrifice,” as if they volunteered to be experimented upon.

They did not. They were drafted into a death and suffering trial. They should not be “honored,” they should be vindicated and the perpetrators punished. We don’t “honor” victims of crime, not because overcoming their suffering is not honorable, but because the impulse of society should be a call for justice.

But the perpetrators of this crime were her colleagues in public health. Not contemporary colleagues, but the people who helped establish her profession at the federal level. They in a sense are her professional ancestors. By “honoring” the “pain and sacrifice” of the victims she is whitewashing history.

Given how the CDC and the federal health authorities are treating all Americans today as subjects in a medical experiment you would have expected her to more carefully choose her words. But obviously she agrees in principle, at some level, to using the judgment of scientists as higher morally than the informed consent of citizens.
Link: https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/...-ratio-n514504

This should be unbelievable. However, it isn't. The public health bureaucrats showed us the monsters they truly are during the pandemic.
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:42 AM
 
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This should be unbelievable. However, it isn't. The public health bureaucrats showed us the monsters they truly are during the pandemic.
Once again, there is a misleading head to the thread. Commemoration is not a celebration.

The miscreants as to the Tuskeegee study were all dead by then, by the way. There is no comparison as to what happened in our recent pandemic.
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:46 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Once again, there is a misleading head to the thread. Commemoration is not a celebration.

The miscreants as to the Tuskeegee study were all dead by then, by the way. There is no comparison as to what happened in our recent pandemic.
Like Walensky and most other DNC apologists, you want to whitewash the CDC's malfeasance in both Tuskegee and COVID, which was malicious and intentional in both cases, and done with ulterior political motives in both cases.

Say something that surprises me, for once.
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Link: https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/...-ratio-n514504

This should be unbelievable. However, it isn't. The public health bureaucrats showed us the monsters they truly are during the pandemic.
The same people celebrate Planned Parenthood don't they?
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:14 PM
 
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Once again, there is a misleading head to the thread. Commemoration is not a celebration.

The miscreants as to the Tuskeegee study were all dead by then, by the way. There is no comparison as to what happened in our recent pandemic.
Let's talk misleading...

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky’s Tweet actually stated...
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This year marks the 50th anniversary of the end of the Tuskegee syphilis study. Tomorrow, I will be joined by colleagues & #PublicHealth leaders as we honor the 623 African American men, their suffering & sacrifice, and our commitment to ethical research and practice.
Don't know about your definition, but I wouldn't call what those men went through as something that should be a commitment to "ethical" research.
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Don't know about your definition, but I wouldn't call what those men went through as something that should be a commitment to "ethical" research.
What they went through changed how research is done now.
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:19 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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They used those men as guinea pigs for their own gain. Skin color should not even come in to play. The government experimented on their own citizens.
The government should be apologizing up and down.

And they are still doing that today...we're nothing but collateral damage to them and their experiments.
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:35 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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What they went through changed how research is done now.
Not with regard to the experimental COVID vaccines. The American people are the guinea pigs when it comes to testing long term effects and complications.
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:47 PM
 
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What they went through changed how research is done now.
Just as slaves changed how we treat people today. So they served a noble purpose. That's pretty twisted.

But I suppose that explains your position on all the vax threads.
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:56 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Let's talk misleading...

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky’s Tweet actually stated...


Don't know about your definition, but I wouldn't call what those men went through as something that should be a commitment to "ethical" research.
That she-man sounds like they are trying to change history.

The USG should be apologizing for that atrocity.

A 40 year experiment on Black citizens without their consent.
They didn't sacrifice...they were sacrificed by the hands of the USG.

And they were not the only Americans that the USG tried their experiments on.

And I laugh at the words "ethical" and "USG" in the same sentence.
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