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Old 05-10-2023, 05:10 PM
 
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Same old same old.

Hamas terrorists kill Israelis indiscriminately, Israel tries to take out Hamas rocket sites. Lather rinse repeat.

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https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-742648

Ceasefire talks ongoing as 350 Gaza rockets shot at Israel

FM Eli Cohen confirmed to KAN News that a ceasefire proposal was sent by Egypt and is under consideration by the defense establishment.

By YONAH JEREMY BOB, LAHAV HARKOV Published: MAY 10, 2023 18:48
Updated: MAY 10, 2023 21:19

Egypt continued mediating a ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian Islamic Jihad to end Operation Shield and Arrow on Wednesday, even as the latter continued a barrage of rockets towards Israeli cities in the south and Tel Aviv area.

Earlier, around 12:30 p.m., the IDF initiated a widespread preemptive strike on a variety of Islamic Jihad rocket positions, including some concealed from the public eye, after seeing intelligence signs that the terror group was getting ready for a broad round of rocket attacks on Israel.

At 11:45 a.m., the IDF carried out its first attack of Wednesday on an Islamic Jihad crew that was getting ready to fire rockets near the southern Gaza city of Khan Yunis.
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Old 05-10-2023, 05:27 PM
 
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Though Israel has a shield, Palestinian civilians don’t have a shield.
Palestinian civilians ARE the shield.

Why else do you think Hamas sets up its offensive rocket launchers in the middle of heavy concentrations of its own civilians?

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Palestinians are stuck between a terrorist organization running their side, and a country that doesn’t even see them as human beings, in a world that is indifferent to it all.
Got any links or evidence of this?
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Old 05-10-2023, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Beacon Falls
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Got any links or evidence of this?
Eh, he was stating his opinion.


Which I disagree with, but I do agree with 'in a world that is indifferent to it all'. It is true, that most of the rest of us have become desensitized to the situation. It's just been going on for so long with no end in sight....
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Old 05-10-2023, 05:59 PM
 
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Eh, he was stating his opinion.
You mean that, when he slandered a country's entire population by accusing them of grotesquely inhuman characteristics, he was making it up out of thin air with nothing to back it up?
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Old 05-10-2023, 06:02 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I have family visiting Israel right now. They’re in the northern part though. Sad that people can’t even go visit an ancient and important region in human history without fear of being killed by Islamic terrorists.
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Old 05-10-2023, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Beacon Falls
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You mean that, when he slandered a country's entire population by accusing them of grotesquely inhuman characteristics, he was making it up out of thin air with nothing to back it up?
No, I am just saying that he was stating an opinion, that's all. Like, when someone says that the USA is a racist country, or if someone says that soccer is an exciting sport. They are just opinions.


As it is an opinion, 'making it up out of thin air with nothing to back it up' doesn't apply, as it would if someone were trying to put forth fact.
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Old 05-10-2023, 07:10 PM
 
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You might want to ask Fatah about Hamas before you start trying to insert some sort of "well they're both at fault" logic into this lol.

Frankly Israel has no choice in the matter. I mean for gods sake, just look at the Middle East. Their treatment of women, gays etc. is abysmal.

Hey, I wish there could be peace but let's be real, it's just not going to happen.
Yeah situation is kind of FUBAR. After the Palestinians refused to drop a right of return back in the 90s peace negotiations and then in the 00's responded to Israel leaving Gaza with rockets and ripping apart the left behind infrastructure out of emotional catharsis rather than trying to make a go of it given the space to do their own thing, I really don't know what people expect Israel to do except maintain the status quo as best they can with as little harm to their own civilians as possible. There isn't a long term solve to the situation for the Israelis outside of killing all the Palestinians, which they are not morally up for, until/unless the Palestinians are willing to accept a final status situation where they govern themselves and the Israelis govern Israel.

On the Palestinian side, their population is super young, and every 5-10 years there is another crop of young people that want to change the status quo but haven't learned the hard way yet that trying to get your way through violence against someone stronger ends poorly, and the people who are older and wiser get dragged along for the ride.
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Old 05-10-2023, 08:02 PM
 
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Sad to say I consider this nothing, nothing because we have seen the same thing for year after year, decade after decade. When such tragedy becomes so common place that it amounts to really nothing it really makes me doubt the worth of the human race
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Old 05-10-2023, 08:04 PM
 
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Palestinian civilians ARE the shield.

Why else do you think Hamas sets up its offensive rocket launchers in the middle of heavy concentrations of its own civilians?


Got any links or evidence of this?
Israel is guilty of that too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l78dOLxt6_g
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Old 05-10-2023, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Though Israel has a shield, Palestinian civilians don’t have a shield.

Palestinians are stuck between a terrorist organization running their side, and a country that doesn’t even see them as human beings, in a world that is indifferent to it all.
Kind of makes you wonder why a full 20% of Israelis are Palestinians who live and work in Israel and hold Israeli citizenship...
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