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Old 06-02-2023, 11:41 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
Pushing LGBT stuff specifically on young children is where it crosses the line for most people.

If a company has a rainbow flag in an office somewhere, who cares? That's their business.
But that is not all what people are upset about. It's pronouns it's the equity stuff on mission statements. Lots of stuff you really have to search for online.

 
Old 06-03-2023, 01:18 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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There's a big difference between supporting a diverse workforce and pushing a woke agenda on customers.
 
Old 06-03-2023, 01:55 PM
 
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You don't do nuance, do you? I'd imagine somewhere on a website for EVERY fortune 500 company you'll find similar statements. This is not about your average gay person or treating equally to straight people, but it's about disrespecting your customer in the case of Bud Light and being outlandishly "in your face" with activism in the case of Target. People are rightly tired of both of those things.
But it is about that, as you can see by the attacks on Chick-fil-A. They put out a statement that is very very similar to the statements we just saw in the OP. And many conservatives are feeling betrayed by that.
 
Old 06-03-2023, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I agree with Cuebald on this one. Nothing is being shoved down my throat. The only time I hear about any of these topics at all is on here or conservative media. I hardly ever watch TV nor go to stores like Target. And no one has ever told me to use certain pronouns. And I have never wandered into a library where drag queens are reading books. So I do doubt much of that chatter on her that all this stuff is being shoved down your throat. Its just faux hysteria to take attention away from what is not getting done. Like the border, inflation, the debt limit and all the real stuff I do have to deal with all the time or affects my bank account and assets. But instead lets act like chicken little because of who Bud Light chooses as a spokesperson. Meanwhile Rome is burning.



Just because it hasn't happened to do doesn't mean it's not happening to others.

And I was also talking about other types of forced and engineered diversity, not just the whole LGBT stuff.
 
Old 06-03-2023, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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But how far are people willing to go?

A lot of what goes on in this world I don't know is happening until I hear it in word of mouth here on the Net. Much of the "outrage" of this world I do not know about for I never see it when it is first shown, in its shock value. As said, for an example, I didn't know who this Brandon was till about this time last year.

So what's my secret of this perfect answer? I don't have TV. No streaming, no cable, no broadcast.

Are people willing to go that far, give up the modern boob tube?

Or are they willing to go along and submit themselves to what Richard Dawson said in "The Running Man" close to 40 years ago? "You look pissed, Ben. Believe me, you got every right to be. But hey, will you just let me explain. This is television, that's all it is. It's nothing to do with people, it's to do with the ratings. For fifty years, we've told them what to eat, what to drink, what to wear... for Christ's sake, Ben, don't you understand? Americans love television. They wean their kids on it. Listen. They love game shows, they love wrestling, they love sports and violence. So what do we do? We give 'em *what they want*! We're number one, Ben, that's all that counts, believe me. I've been in the business thirty years." (From imdb)
 
Old 06-03-2023, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This here my friend is what they call "virtual signaling". In the end, what is really happening is these companies are claiming to be supporting the LGBT movement, but when it cause a dip in their sales, they will claim they tried it but the market isn't there and will never do it again.

I hope the LGBT community know that these corporations are just taking them for a ride.
 
Old 06-03-2023, 05:01 PM
 
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This here my friend is what they call "virtual signaling". In the end, what is really happening is these companies are claiming to be supporting the LGBT movement, but when it cause a dip in their sales, they will claim they tried it but the market isn't there and will never do it again.

I hope the LGBT community know that these corporations are just taking them for a ride.
There is no movement as far as I'm concerned. I'm a gay man who wants and has NOTHING to do with that alphabet soup, though. Lots of guys like me out there.
 
Old 06-03-2023, 05:49 PM
 
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Just because it hasn't happened to do doesn't mean it's not happening to others.

And I was also talking about other types of forced and engineered diversity, not just the whole LGBT stuff.
I am not reading much anecdotal stuff on here. Just that its being rammed down their throat with all the stories on conservative media about it. I really believe a very very few on here have any first hand experience with any of this.

I am against quotas that force employers or universities (affirmative action) to pick a certain amount of non white male candidates. It should always be the best candidate gets in. If its done honestly many others will get in, no matter what it is. Obviously the left does not trust that so they want to force a quota.

But other than that. If a business wants to feature a trans social media influencer. Who cares? If that does not work for you, ok. It does not work for me either. But to boycott the company is silly. Or Chick-a-fila. Or Target having a pride display. Target is not woke. They are trying to appease these groups. They are not trying to turn you trans or gay. They are not trying to groom your kids. Its silly I have to point this out. Or maybe you got sexually harassed on the job but we don't care. No responsible business would act that way.

My point of this thread was that almost all larger businesses have an EDI statement in their company website. They are not woke for doing that. They are protecting their business from lawsuits. That is it. You don't have it. Its like not having a sexual harassment policy. You open the door to lawsuits. Its saying we are not diverse and the reason you did not get hired might because of that.

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Old 06-03-2023, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Never been one for Chick a fila anyhow. Stopped by there a few years ago but between the wait and the cost, went off to Wally World instead and picked up a sack of tanjelos (before I was a Type II). Which is to say, it doesn't matter who you are advertising to if your product isn't worth it.
 
Old 06-03-2023, 05:58 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I am not reading much anecdotal stuff on here. Just that its being rammed down their throat with all the stories on conservative media about it. I really believe a very very few on here have any first hand experience with any of this.

I am against quotas that force employers or universities (affirmative action) to pick a certain amount of non white male candidates. It should always be the best candidate gets in. If its done honestly many others will get in, no matter what it is. Obviously the left does not trust that so they want to force a quota.

But other than that. If a business wants to feature a trans social media influencer. Who cares? If that does not work for you, ok. It does not work for me either. But to boycott the company is silly. Or Chick-a-fila. Or Target having a pride display. Target is not woke. They are trying to appease these groups. They are not trying to turn you trans or gay. They are not trying to groom your kids. Its silly I have to point this out.

My point of this thread was that almost all larger businesses have an EDI statement in their company website. They are not woke for doing that. They are protecting their business from lawsuits. That is it. You don't have it. Its like not having a sexual harassment policy. You open the door to lawsuits. Its saying we are not diverse and the reason you did not get hired might because of that.
That has been there since before the 90's when I was working.
They just call it different names now.

But then it was about Gays, Blacks, Women and people with disabilities....those were the big social issues back then.
The big push was to make everything ADA compliant.

OP must think this is something new.
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