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Old 06-01-2008, 03:40 PM
 
Location: southern california
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if the shoe does not fit, no need to wear it. however regardless of the status of the speaker, if it does fit--------, maybe time for a change in foreign policy?
2 experts on mideast policy, france & russia, both of whom thus far, we have ignored.
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:45 PM
 
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Well, that's reassuring.
Not.
The Middle East and Russia / Kazakhstan are the world's leading energy suppliers, China / Japan and Europe are the world's leading lending institutions.
America is acting aggressively out of weakness, the US Army and the US dollar are America's top exports, war and toilet paper.
Food and technology products won't make it, technology in the US is subsidized by foreign capital and foreign brains, farmland is needed for biofuel and renewables and agriculture is energy-intensive.

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Old 06-01-2008, 03:49 PM
 
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Oh, surely. Perhaps the US should reform itself and emulate Putin's Russia.

Become a nation of serfs with a tsar/president for life.
Always with the USA being a shining beacon of democracy that can do no wrong. Whenever you encounter criticism of America, you throw out some inane comparison as argument. America has huge problems and is perhaps correctly viewed as a rogue/monster nation by the rest of the world. Don't insult their opinion by ignoring them. I honestly don't believe you could offer any constructive advice on how to improve America's image that wouldn't entail killing millions and dismissing the survivors as crybabies. It is precisely that kind of elitist/imperialist arrogance that got us deeper into this mess.
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:58 PM
 
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Metternich's balance of power doctrine is important, at least that's what I believe.
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Nowhere was I suggesting we emulate Putin's Russia. However, this doesn't change the fact we sure ain't the US I grew up in.
You're right about that -- especially as regards grammar.
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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The Middle East and Russia / Kazakhstan are the world's leading energy suppliers, China / Japan and Europe are the world's leading lending institutions.
America is acting aggressively out of weakness, the US Army and the US dollar are America's top exports, war and toilet paper.
Food and technology products won't make it, technology in the US is subsidized by foreign capital and foreign brains, farmland is needed for biofuel and renewables and agriculture is energy-intensive.
You know so little. Look up at Mars tonight. Think about whose research vehicle is there...
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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The first is already here courtest of the Federal Reserve and forced usage of the debased dollar. The second will be here shortly courtesy of both parties.
Methinks Ronulan doth protest to much.
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Always with the USA being a shining beacon of democracy that can do no wrong. Whenever you encounter criticism of America, you throw out some inane comparison as argument.
The OP references Putin. I pointed out some of his less attractive propensities. No inanity.

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America has huge problems and is perhaps correctly viewed as a rogue/monster nation by the rest of the world.
That "perhaps" contains as large a margin for error as confidently making collective observations on the opinion of the entire world.

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Don't insult their opinion by ignoring them.
Who "them"? The junta of Myanmar? The EU? Two nude bikers in Moldova?

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I honestly don't believe you could offer any constructive advice on how to improve America's image that wouldn't entail killing millions and dismissing the survivors as crybabies. It is precisely that kind of elitist/imperialist arrogance that got us deeper into this mess.
What mess? Not being liked? Surely you jest...

Obama will cure it all. It'll be just like throwing Hershey bars out of a jeep to the grandparents of today's angry Europeans in 1945...

Nobody will get killed. They won't even be inconvenienced.
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