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Old 01-08-2007, 03:54 PM
 
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Bull poopy. ^
Soooooooooooooooo does that phrase mean you agree or disagree .....Anyway once Quebec breaks from Canada it could open the possibility here. Lots of rumbling in lower California from what i hear and read....
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Missouri
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I don't see it happening. What is far more likely:

By the 22nd century, most Americans will probably be speaking Spanish and/or Chinese.

The state of our economy right now is terrifying. Our debt, the fact that hostile states like China and Saudi Arabia own huge chunks of our debt, and the fact that manufacturing and industry are now mostly overseas enterprises is very, very scary. Add to that China's vast military build-up over the past 15 years, and you've got a very scary situation.

The comparison to Rome is a good one, but I'm afraid that this time when the barbarians run over the hills, it won't be armies. It will be accountants.
I don't always agree with your conclusions, though usually with a great many of them or parts of others, but....
You have such a way putting things into words! You're a powerful image creater and I love your analogies.
The one above comparing us to Rome with accountants overrunning us instead of armies... excellent!
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:40 PM
 
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Yeah, I think if you wanna be accurate about the map, you need to include a few more states...
Is this more accurate.


Old Map


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Old 01-08-2007, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Burlington, VT
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By the 22nd century, most Americans will probably be speaking Spanish and/or Chinese.

I don't think that's a bad thing. In many countries, people speak 2 or 3 languages, so why can't American kids learn 2?

I grew up in a town full of French Canadians, and we all learned French fron kindergarden to high school. Some relatives of mine lived in Ireland for a while, and every child there has to study Gaelic, including Chinese (lots of them in Belfast) and Nigerian (Dublin) immigrants.

Since many native-born Americans speak spanish, why not establish truly bilingual education? Teach all of the kids in english and spanish.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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By the 22nd century, most Americans will probably be speaking Spanish and/or Chinese.

I don't think that's a bad thing. In many countries, people speak 2 or 3 languages, so why can't American kids learn 2?

I grew up in a town full of French Canadians, and we all learned French fron kindergarden to high school. Some relatives of mine lived in Ireland for a while, and every child there has to study Gaelic, including Chinese (lots of them in Belfast) and Nigerian (Dublin) immigrants.

Since many native-born Americans speak spanish, why not establish truly bilingual education? Teach all of the kids in english and spanish.

That is wrong. Your way of thinking is an endangerment to the American way of life.

We are an English speaking culture and people.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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I don't think that's a bad thing. In many countries, people speak 2 or 3 languages, so why can't American kids learn 2?
I wish more immigrants would bother to learn english, so to to that end duality of language would be a good thing
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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But that economy is built on sand. The United States has become primarily a consumer culture and service industry. The only industry in the world where we still compete is the movies. Our manufacturing base is all overseas. Even what few remain (like Toyota plans in Tennessee) are actually owned by foreign companies. Most of our ports are owned by foreign countries. Farming exists primarily as large agri-business corporations who remain profitable only by large government subsidies.

An economy built primarily on consumerism is not healthy. You have to actually produce something to give your economy a strong base. When our economic system rewards investment over labor and production, we are in trouble. And that time is now.
Also- unemployment numbers mean nothing. They are skewed and simply drop off after a month. It has nothing to do with the economy; it's like saying Lowe's stock split, so the economy in the world is doing well. Microeconomics 101.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:08 PM
 
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Is this more accurate.


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Yes, but you should include eastern WA in it, since there's a lot more illegals on that side of my favorite state. But, you obviously get the point .
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:13 PM
 
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By the 22nd century, most Americans will probably be speaking Spanish and/or Chinese.

I don't think that's a bad thing. In many countries, people speak 2 or 3 languages, so why can't American kids learn 2?
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Since many native-born Americans speak spanish, why not establish truly bilingual education? Teach all of the kids in english and spanish.
Most of us in America don't wish to be like Europe and have to be semi-fluent in at least 3 languages, cause it's simply inefficient and incredibly annoying. Why put that kind of unnecessary stress on Americans? Half of our native-born English speakers can barely read and write, so what makes you think they could pick up another language? It's a great goal, but teachers are having a tough enough time as it is...
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:14 PM
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Location: Central piedmont area of NC
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Its simple....follow the money.
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