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Old 06-11-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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I'm not sure if this belongs in this forum or not, but it ticked me off that Clinton is using my graduation as an attempt to make a political stance. I mean, is it really necessary to hamper a day intended to celebrate student achievement to make a statement? I wasn't aware that Clinton was still running for office...

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abc7.com: Bill Clinton cancels commencement speech at UCLA 6/10/08 (broken link)

The former president nixed his scheduled appearance at the Los Angeles campus Friday because of an ongoing labor dispute at the University of California. Contract talks have sputtered for months between UC and members of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. Clinton's office said last month he wouldn't appear unless a contract was settled. UCLA announced Tuesday Clinton backed out.

Vice Provost Judith Smith said in a statement it's "unfortunate" that union activities affected the event. UCLA Chancellor Gene Block will deliver keynote remarks to approximately 4,000 graduating seniors.
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I think you are being a little selfish. Yes, I would also love to listen to President Clinton speak, especially on a special day like graduation. But as the LA Times reported Democrats traditionally do not cross picket lines in support of labor. It is far more important that the University of California deal fairly with the staff then to blame Clinton for not showing up.
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:29 PM
 
Location: baja Mx
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Thumbs down Clinton cancels UCLA speach-Fanf------gtastic

Rather than rehash and hear "thats old,thats been beat to death", how about this, Clinton (and probably Hillary) pardoned Mel Reynolds-child molester,pedophile,convict etc. Forget Monica,et al. cigars, the Rich's and all the rest of this characterless Rhodes Scholar (as was Mel).
Mel the molester is now in the employ of Jessy "the poverty pimp".

What the hell does Clinton have to say that he gets paid $3-500,000?

I did research at UCLA with some of the top scholars in the world why contaminate the campus?

BTW- why is the Clinton Library in Harlem rather than Arkansas?
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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Hahahahhahahahahaha!!
No, Newt Gingrich beat him to it... I did see Repubs Larry Craig and Mark Foley in the BOY'S locker room though - how could you miss his 'wide stance'? HAHAHA!
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:08 PM
 
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Bill Clinton cancels speech at UCLA

Did they look for him in the cheerleaders' locker room?
I think I saw Bill O'really in there waving his 'louffa' around. HAHAHA!
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:38 PM
mga
 
Location: near rochester ny
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Graduation ceremonies are the common forum now for the speaker of the day to foist his/her political agenda. I was recently at a university graduation and it was Bash Bush day amongst ALL the speakers, very sad indeed. Very little support or encouragement for students going out into the world on their own. I saw a number of parents walking out very disgusted by this hijacking of their child's graduation ceremony. The hapless little graduates (socialists in the making) appeared, however, very excited and clapping gleefully, giving standing ovation to these usurpers on their day. Sign of the times.
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In a socialist construct, it is only the elite few who have "control" over the fate of the masses. But I do believe history is about to repeat itself (once again) and to our detriment.
man, i agree 100% on both posts!!

i watched the news the other evening and they showed various speakers at universities and every single one was a liberal leftist going on about how we must turn to socialism to make america better.

i agree, we're in trouble. the problem is that college kids never had to work for what they got, mom and dad paid for it all, so, they feel everyone should have a free ride at the expense of the rich, (mom and dad all over again)
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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man, i agree 100% on both posts!!

i watched the news the other evening and they showed various speakers at universities and every single one was a liberal leftist going on about how we must turn to socialism to make america better.

i agree, we're in trouble. the problem is that college kids never had to work for what they got, mom and dad paid for it all, so, they feel everyone should have a free ride at the expense of the rich, (mom and dad all over again)
FYI, I have put myself through all four years of college and have not received a penny from my parents, by working a full-time job. While I sympathize with the labor unions, I do not think that graduation ceremonies are the time and place to protest. Yes, Clinton was probably going to end up saying nothing insightful, but I wasn't aware that the graduating seniors were responsible for the terrible working conditions of UC workers. In fact, some of the UC workers are graduating seniors. I do agree that the UCLA chancellor's office should've done more to resolve the labor dispute in time for graduation, since Clinton's office did explicitly state their conditions.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:56 PM
 
Location: In a house
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I am trying to understand what you mean by your statement. He obviously has feelings about the situation, therefore, he has declined speaking. If it only were for appearances, I believe he would have still attended.

As indicated by the OP, his office had indicated that he would not appear unless this situation was settled. Evidently, it has not been settled and Mr. Clinton is keeping his word.
I meant just what I said. If its not nice & cozy or it doesn't fit their agenda a politician will dump you in a red hot minute.
How can you say he is keeping his word by breaking his word?

His feelings in this case should be for the students he just crapped on. He is not the president, he's not really anybody special anymore so who is to be hurt by him keeping his word. Probably Hillary told Billy boy not to go.

For whatever its worth I'm a union worker & if he was suposed to appear before my kids I'd think it pretty rotten to opt out like this. Hopefully my kids wouldn't care to listen to his BS anyway.
He was impeached for crying out loud for lieing to Congress & us. Loser.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:26 PM
 
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I meant just what I said. If its not nice & cozy or it doesn't fit their agenda a politician will dump you in a red hot minute.
How can you say he is keeping his word by breaking his word?

His feelings in this case should be for the students he just crapped on. He is not the president, he's not really anybody special anymore so who is to be hurt by him keeping his word. Probably Hillary told Billy boy not to go.

For whatever its worth I'm a union worker & if he was suposed to appear before my kids I'd think it pretty rotten to opt out like this. Hopefully my kids wouldn't care to listen to his BS anyway.
He was impeached for crying out loud for lieing to Congress & us. Loser.
Everybody hates Bill Clinton. So it is written so shall it be done.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:32 PM
mga
 
Location: near rochester ny
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FYI, I have put myself through all four years of college and have not received a penny from my parents, by working a full-time job. While I sympathize with the labor unions, I do not think that graduation ceremonies are the time and place to protest. Yes, Clinton was probably going to end up saying nothing insightful, but I wasn't aware that the graduating seniors were responsible for the terrible working conditions of UC workers. In fact, some of the UC workers are graduating seniors. I do agree that the UCLA chancellor's office should've done more to resolve the labor dispute in time for graduation, since Clinton's office did explicitly state their conditions.
on the other hand, i don't blame bill clinton for saying **** it. the left turned on him like a snake, as you can see from the following posts. they hailed him at one time as the greatest president ever...during the bush years....but, once obama started running, bill clinton was a bigger ******* than bush....according to the left. which is understandable for them, since they could not support bill clinton, while supporting obama. so, they chose to turn on him.

bill clinton doesn't have to get political at his speeches...he's had his time, his wife isn't running and i don't think he care who wins the presidency.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:33 PM
mga
 
Location: near rochester ny
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I meant just what I said. If its not nice & cozy or it doesn't fit their agenda a politician will dump you in a red hot minute.
How can you say he is keeping his word by breaking his word?

His feelings in this case should be for the students he just crapped on. He is not the president, he's not really anybody special anymore so who is to be hurt by him keeping his word. Probably Hillary told Billy boy not to go.

For whatever its worth I'm a union worker & if he was suposed to appear before my kids I'd think it pretty rotten to opt out like this. Hopefully my kids wouldn't care to listen to his BS anyway.
He was impeached for crying out loud for lieing to Congress & us. Loser.
how dramatic of you. how old were you when that happened that you still can't seem to grow out of such an emotional time in your life?
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