what is universal health care (enemy, health care system, premium, Obama)

[jmarquise]

I am just wondering what this catch phrase means. does this mean that those who have no coverage, will have free coverage. does it mean that everyone will get free coverage. we hear this phrase tossed around and I don't really understand what it means. are we to believe that there will be elite people waiting behind us in line?

[Greatday]

Universal health care, or universal healthcare, is health care coverage which is extended to all citizens, and sometimes permanent residents, of a governmental region. Universal health care programs vary widely in their structure and funding mechanisms, particularly the degree to which they are publicly funded. Typically, most health care costs are met by the population via compulsory health insurance or taxation, or a combination of both.

Universal health care systems require government involvement, typically in the forms of enacting legislation, mandates and regulation. In some cases, government involvement also includes directly managing the health care system, but many countries use mixed public-private systems to deliver universal health care.

Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[jmarquise]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Universal health care, or universal healthcare, is health care coverage which is extended to all citizens, and sometimes permanent residents, of a governmental region. Universal health care programs vary widely in their structure and funding mechanisms, particularly the degree to which they are publicly funded. Typically, most health care costs are met by the population via compulsory health insurance or taxation, or a combination of both.

Universal health care systems require government involvement, typically in the forms of enacting legislation, mandates and regulation. In some cases, government involvement also includes directly managing the health care system, but many countries use mixed public-private systems to deliver universal health care.

Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

would americans have a choice? I mean, the government ruined retirement with social security, now I am forced to pay into a system that I might not use. I would want a private option, and I don't want to pay for the free crap. I shouldn't have to pay for anyone else's health care, and I know that is where this is going to end up.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by jmarquise

would americans have a choice? I mean, the government ruined retirement with social security, now I am forced to pay into a system that I might not use. I would want a private option, and I don't want to pay for the free crap. I shouldn't have to pay for anyone else's health care, and I know that is where this is going to end up.

There is no way to know inasmuch as no plan has been put on the table for consideration.

[jmarquise]

Originally Posted by Greatday

There is no way to know inasmuch as no plan has been put on the table for consideration.

hope there is a choice either way. I don't have a 401k along with a roth IRA because I trust social security.

[Puddy4LyF]

There would definitely be private plans or extended plans for those with more serious complications or those who are "the elite." There's no doubt about that. What that entails or the price is, as the previous poster said, there's no way to tell.

72% of our healthcare is already government funded or subsidized so it's really just a matter of time. And that's not a bad thing --

The real enemy in this is the money filtering through the endless lines of HMO's and middle men.

We waste ALOT of money in our current system.

[ndfmnlf]

would americans have a choice? I mean, the government ruined retirement with social security, now I am forced to pay into a system that I might not use. I would want a private option, and I don't want to pay for the free crap. I shouldn't have to pay for anyone else's health care, and I know that is where this is going to end up.

Can you afford to pay for your entire health care in cash? If you can, feel free to do so. If not, then you'll have to buy insurance. But when you buy insurance, you are, in effect, subsidizing the health care of other people. You are paying for someone else's health care since your premium is pooled with that of millions of other insureds to pay for the claims of the unhealthy.

[jmarquise]

Originally Posted by Puddy4LyF

There would definitely be private plans or extended plans for those with more serious complications or those who are "the elite." There's no doubt about that. What that entails or the price is, as the previous poster said, there's no way to tell.

72% of our healthcare is already government funded or subsidized so it's really just a matter of time. And that's not a bad thing --

The real enemy in this is the money filtering through the endless lines of HMO's and middle men.

We waste ALOT of money in our current system.

I think that this goes along with my theory. government ruined health care, so then why are we asking them to fix it?

[One Thousand]

Originally Posted by jmarquise

I am just wondering what this catch phrase means.

There's no objective definition being used. As you can see with the definition from wiki, it's smoke and mirrors except "the government's involved."

It's a stupid plan advanced by stupid people. Just read some of the threads with this as a topic. It's the "grass is greener" crowd rushing to the latest fad. You ask them about why a big state like CA will have health coverage control over a state lightly populated like ND, and they can't answer... but keep saying we need it. You ask them "If no state has made it work effectively yet, why do you think the fed can do it?" Again, no answer, but they keep saying we need it. You ask them "If the fed screwed up Social Security so bad, why would you trust them with health care?" Again, no explanation... they just continue their bleating.

It's typical liberal BS. Each of them hear the words "universal health care" and an image of utopia forms in their mind without regard to the vision intended by the speaker. It's just idiotic.

[texdav]

Most peole think the universal healthcare is a tax player paid program but I don't see thatt in any plan really. That is why Obama has said that force is not a option because some people still will not be able to afford his plan.So his plan is only universal as pertains to being available. There is the problem of if government is going to have to get in the business of supporting hospitals directly;becasue I don't see the same level of services being possible under so many in a plan that pays to medicare levels.They control cost there by constantly dropping reinbursements and private insurance pays the difference.I see alot of companies that will start to drop there plan and letthe governmant plan take over as cost skyrocket in their plans.