Oklahoma Declares Sovereinty (health care, military, cost, dollars)

[DaBeez]

Originally Posted by lionking

some would say the same about Cali.

Some may. But they would be very very very very few.

[oz in SC]

Originally Posted by DaBeez

Some may. But they would be very very very very few.

Uh huh...I believe you will find there is an exodus of people moving OUT of CA for other regions....

[bbkaren]

Originally Posted by DaBeez

Some may. But they would be very very very very few.

haha, I think you'd be surprised how many people here could care less if CA seceded.

[Convert 54]

OK had a chance to talk with my rep today about the situation and his place on the issue.
He stated it was as Reynolds said plus it also was a slam at the feds over the real ID act and that Okla wouldn't utilize the real ID .. He was a tad upset the the republican committee were the ones that killed it........

[Convert 54]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

Seeing as Oklahoma wouldn't even exist except by the actions of the Federal government......if the people there hate the Feds so much we can always give the place back to the displaced eastern Indians and Comanches.

Are you nuts.......... hell the Indians had to be forced here at bayonet.
It was pass through country they didn't stay here long until they were fenced in...
So all of you who have ever thought of coming here just forget it...Its a hard scrapple existence and we rarely even have good tv reception...
the Indians jump the reservation every so often and the illegal immigrants damn near control the whole state...........
I would even fly over or drive through, just go around

[Losertarian]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

So they are rejecting all road, school, safety and health funding? Do Oklahoma residents no longer qualify for Social Security or Medicare, and what is Oklahoma doing to replace these programs? Are Oklahomans now exempt from Federal Taxes?

(somewhat rhetorical)

you know that nice little thing called the fed gas tax? that will stay in OK instead of going into fed hands. and what if 25 states do the same thing? the fed going to try and cut them off too?

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by oz in SC

I believe quite a lot of the people of Oklahoma ARE Indians....hard to 'give it back' when they are already living there.

I mean give them back control wise guy. The displaced eastern Indians in Oklahoma were "privatized".

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by arctichomesteader

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

-Amendment 10


Secession is not prohibited. Find it in the Constitution if it is, big government supporters. Lincoln was a tyrant, he did not uphold the Constitution in the 1860's. The fact he was willing to sacrifice thousands and thousands of lives to hold onto power, didn't make him or his position right against states' rights. It made him a worthless piece of trash. Booth was a hero, Taney was a hero for defending habeas corpus, Lincoln was a brutal tyrant who imprisoned dissenters and murdered those who asserted their rights via an illegal war.

Hum......No Comment

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by oz in SC

To me,it would no great loss if CA seceded and joined Mexico....

California is the only state in the union that could survive seceding from the union and make it economically as a independant Nation...it would be the 6th or 7th riches Nation In The World.

[oz in SC]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

California is the only state in the union that could survive seceding from the union and make it economically as a independant Nation...it would be the 6th or 7th riches Nation In The World.

Not any more.....it might have been a couple of years back,now not so much.

But I personally would welcome CA leaving the union...as long as a fence is built along the newly formed border.